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The comitative case also should be modelled. Because it also goes inflected with the noun.--[[User:Msalperen|Msalperen]] 10:16, 18 August 2007 (BST)
 
The comitative case also should be modelled. Because it also goes inflected with the noun.--[[User:Msalperen|Msalperen]] 10:16, 18 August 2007 (BST)
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== Harmonization Issue ==
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We can define <noun2> which ends with one kind of vowel (let's say e) and define new kinds of affixes (<sg2-2> for example) that only follows the second kind of nouns. would it be a solution for harmonization? There're are not so much type of vowels when it comes to harmonization. Let's say bira is a type 1 noun
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biralarım = <noun-1><pl-1><sg1>
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and evlerim <noun-2><pl-2><sg-2>
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if the last vowel of the stem is a it will always be type 1 vowel, and the following affixes will always be type 1 and the same logic for the second type of nouns. Just in the xml file, we will define the word as noun-1 or noun-2 not only single identifier "<n>". I think this solution will require only a few more definitions or paradigms. --[[User:Msalperen|Msalperen]] 21:17, 18 August 2007 (BST)

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I think we will need new definitions for the five mentioned cases of turkish nouns

  • tocase or tcase for short
  • fromcase or fcase for short
  • incase or icase for short
  • thatcase or thcase for short
  • purecase or pcase for short


Comparative Resources

A Comparison of Modern Azeri With By Kurtulush Oztopchu – Berkeley/UCLA

http://azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/13_folder/13_articles/kurtulush_azeri_turkish_13.pdf

Dictionary of the Turkic Languages:

http://books.google.com/books?id=2f3yxBxf1TYC&pg=PA1&dq=turkic+dictionary&ei=u6bGRobjCI_g6wKSs-XfDw&sig=KmHmuF4VK5oc30rFxkBOHyuY0eg


Example for Noun cases:

http://www.ingilish.com/turkishnouncase.htm

The posession phrase part of this page also has some extra information with genitive and comitative forms http://www.ingilish.com/turkishpasttense.htm

Comitative Case The comitative case also should be modelled. Because it also goes inflected with the noun.--Msalperen 10:16, 18 August 2007 (BST)

Harmonization Issue

We can define <noun2> which ends with one kind of vowel (let's say e) and define new kinds of affixes (<sg2-2> for example) that only follows the second kind of nouns. would it be a solution for harmonization? There're are not so much type of vowels when it comes to harmonization. Let's say bira is a type 1 noun

biralarım = <noun-1><pl-1><sg1> and evlerim <noun-2><pl-2><sg-2>

if the last vowel of the stem is a it will always be type 1 vowel, and the following affixes will always be type 1 and the same logic for the second type of nouns. Just in the xml file, we will define the word as noun-1 or noun-2 not only single identifier "<n>". I think this solution will require only a few more definitions or paradigms. --Msalperen 21:17, 18 August 2007 (BST)