Talk:Turkish and Azerbaijani

I think we will need new definitions for the five mentioned cases of turkish nouns

• tocase or tcase for short
• fromcase or fcase for short
• incase or icase for short
• thatcase or thcase for short
• purecase or pcase for short

Comparative Resources

A Comparison of Modern Azeri With By Kurtulush Oztopchu – Berkeley/UCLA

http://azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/13_folder/13_articles/kurtulush_azeri_turkish_13.pdf

Dictionary of the Turkic Languages:

http://books.google.com/books?id=2f3yxBxf1TYC&pg=PA1&dq=turkic+dictionary&ei=u6bGRobjCI_g6wKSs-XfDw&sig=KmHmuF4VK5oc30rFxkBOHyuY0eg

Example for Noun cases:

http://www.ingilish.com/turkishnouncase.htm

The posession phrase part of this page also has some extra information with genitive and comitative forms http://www.ingilish.com/turkishpasttense.htm

Comitative Case The comitative case also should be modelled. Because it also goes inflected with the noun.--Msalperen 10:16, 18 August 2007 (BST)

Harmonization Issue

We can define <noun2> which ends with one kind of vowel (let's say e) and define new kinds of affixes (<sg2-2> for example) that only follows the second kind of nouns. would it be a solution for harmonization? There're are not so much type of vowels when it comes to harmonization. Let's say bira is a type 1 noun

biralarım = <noun-1><pl-1><sg1>

and ev is the second type

evlerim=<noun-2><pl-2><sg-2>

There are 8 vowels and only two kinds of plural makers in Turkish so it would be

for a,ı,o and u (so called tight vowels)

stems: bira, koro, kız, muz

biralarım = <noun-1><pl-1><sg1> (my beers) korolarım = <noun-1><pl-1><sg1> (my choirs) kızlarım = <noun-1><pl-1><sg1> (my daughters) muzlarım = <noun-1><pl-1><sg1> (my bananas)

for e,i,ö, and ü (so called "tin" vowels)

stems: ev, kedi, göz, düş

evlerim = <noun-2><pl-2><pp-1> kedilerim = <noun-2><pl-2><pp-1> gözlerim = <noun-2><pl-2><pp-1> düşlerim = <noun-2><pl-2><pp-1>

if the last vowel of the stem is a it will always be type 1 vowel, and the following affixes will always be type 1 and the same logic for the second type of nouns. Just in the xml file, we will define the word as noun-1 or noun-2 not only single identifier "<n>". I think this solution will require only a few more definitions or paradigms. --Msalperen 21:17, 18 August 2007 (BST)