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| − | In Hungarian a word has usually 2500 forms. |
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| − | Therefore a Hungarian dictionary with all forms would contain 1 million * 2500 words, |
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| − | that is 2.5 GWords, approx 20 GBytes, that can not be handled by computers |
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| − | and handling it would make no sense. |
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| − | Yes, hunspell handles that perfectly, it also handles vowel harmony. |
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| − | What about Apertum to handle Hungarian? [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 10:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | :I've played about with [[hunmorph]] — one of its limitations iirc is that it cannot do generation, only analysis. My personal preference for handling languages like Hungarian and Finnish etc. is to use something like [[SFST]] (see also [[Omorfi]]). The problem of course is then to get someone to write the actual code. - [[User:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] 12:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | In Hungarian there is simply too much to generate. Not sure with Finnish&Turkish&Basque&Persian, but they also have a lot. I give you an example: |
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| − | * ház (house) |
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| − | * házhoz to the .. |
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| − | * háztól from the.. |
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| − | * házig up to.. |
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| − | * háznak of the.. |
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| − | * háznál at the |
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| − | * házba into.. |
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| − | * házban in the... |
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| − | * házból from the... |
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| − | * házról about ... |
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| − | * házra on top of the... |
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| − | * házon on the .... |
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| − | * házzá become a ... |
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| − | * házat it (accusativ) - 15 |
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| − | * házam (my house - repeat all previous to this like:) -- 30 |
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| − | ** házamhoz ... |
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| − | ... |
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| − | ** házamat ... |
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| − | * házad (your house repeat all previous to this) -45 |
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| − | * háza (his, her, its house repeat all previous to this) - 60 |
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| − | * házunk (our house repeat all previous to this) -- 75 |
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| − | * házatok (your house repeat all previous to this) - 90 |
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| − | * házuk (their house repeat all previous to this) - 105 |
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| − | * házé (of the house repeat all previous to this) - 130 |
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| − | * házamé (of my house -repeat all previous to this) - .. |
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| − | ... |
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| − | * házuké (of their house -repeat all previous to this) - 210 |
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| − | * házak (plural - repeat all previous for this up to here) 420 |
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| − | ... |
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| − | * házacska ( a little house - repeat all prevoius up to here) 840 |
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| − | * házikó ( a little house- repeat all prevoius, except last) 1260 |
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| − | * házas (married- repeat all previous for this up to here, except the last 2) 1680 |
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| − | ... |
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| − | * you can see, it is almost trivial to get thousands of words just without a grammar book for each substantive. |
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| − | In my opinion if we get a word, házaitokétól, (which is not unusual) we need an analysis tool, that shows: |
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| − | * házaitokétól (from something of your houses) |
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| − | * this is from ház |
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| − | * it is plural |
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| − | * it suits to the prefix "from" |
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| − | * it suits to "plural you" |
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| − | * the houses own something |
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| − | * the owned thing is singular (otherwise it would be házaitokéitól) |
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| − | With this knowledge we can construct the English (or Spanish, German, etc...) form. [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 20:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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