Difference between revisions of "North Saami and Finnish"
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* How are compounds dealt with in [[Omorfi]] and in the GTSVN dix files ? Do they always split in the same places ? If not, we probably have to add those that don't as lexicalised entries in the transducers. |
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| + | ==Comparisons of Northern Sámi and Finnish== |
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| + | ===Noun phrases=== |
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| + | Both Northern Sámi and Finnish structure nounphrases this: |
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| + | NOUN-Pl-Case-Possessive-CliticParticles |
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| + | Possessives markers are much less common in Northern Sámi, but morphological analyzers will handle them. |
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| + | ====Cases==== |
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| + | Northern Sámi has 7 cases: nominative, accusative, genitive, locative, illative, comitative, essive |
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| + | * Accusative and Genitive are often syncretic, except in some numbers and some pronouns. |
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| + | Finnish has 15 cases (and several additional case-like suffixes only applied to adverbials). This is alot, here are the significant facts to avoid a string of opaque latinate terms: |
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| + | * Structural cases: 4. nominative, partitive, accusative, genitive |
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| + | * Locative cases: 6. An internal and external set that show goal, location, and source. |
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| + | * Stative cases: 2. state, change into state; rarely a third - change from state |
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| + | * Additional: 2 instructive/instrumental cases (with, without), 1 comitative case (plural only) |
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| + | Where Finnish distinguishes internality and externality with locative and stative cases, there is no such distinction in Northern Sámi. Northern Sámi uses 'locative' for source and location, and illative for goal. |
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==See also== |
==See also== |
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Revision as of 22:03, 9 April 2010
This page is for discussing the Northern Sámi and Finnish translator (apertium-sme-fin). Some pending things to think about:
- How are compounds dealt with in Omorfi and in the GTSVN dix files ? Do they always split in the same places ? If not, we probably have to add those that don't as lexicalised entries in the transducers.
Comparisons of Northern Sámi and Finnish
Noun phrases
Both Northern Sámi and Finnish structure nounphrases this:
NOUN-Pl-Case-Possessive-CliticParticles
Possessives markers are much less common in Northern Sámi, but morphological analyzers will handle them.
Cases
Northern Sámi has 7 cases: nominative, accusative, genitive, locative, illative, comitative, essive
- Accusative and Genitive are often syncretic, except in some numbers and some pronouns.
Finnish has 15 cases (and several additional case-like suffixes only applied to adverbials). This is alot, here are the significant facts to avoid a string of opaque latinate terms:
- Structural cases: 4. nominative, partitive, accusative, genitive
- Locative cases: 6. An internal and external set that show goal, location, and source.
- Stative cases: 2. state, change into state; rarely a third - change from state
- Additional: 2 instructive/instrumental cases (with, without), 1 comitative case (plural only)
Where Finnish distinguishes internality and externality with locative and stative cases, there is no such distinction in Northern Sámi. Northern Sámi uses 'locative' for source and location, and illative for goal.
