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== Parts of Speech ==
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===Basics===
  
   
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First we simply want to see that words of each POS kind of work.
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; A house
  
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* {{test|deu|Das Haus|talo}}
  
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===Determiners===
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German has articles, Finnish not so...
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; the
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* {{test|deu|der|}}
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* {{test|fin|tämä|die}}
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===Nouns===
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German requires and article for nominals.
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; house
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* {{test|deu|das Haus|talo}}
 
* {{test|fin|talo|Haus}}
  
* {{test|fin|talo|Haus}}
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====Proper nouns====
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Just a small nuisance with apertium's np classes *and* genders.
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; Jack
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* {{test|deu|Jack|Jack}}
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* {{test|fin|Jack|Jack}}
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; Finland
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* {{test|deu|Finnland|Suomi}}
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* {{test|fin|Suomi|Finnland}}
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===Pronouns===
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Well, yeah.
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; I
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* {{test|deu|ich|minä}}
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* {{test|fin|minä|ich}}
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; me
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* {{test|deu|mich|minut}}
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* {{test|fin|minut|mich}}
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* {{test|fin|minua|mich}}
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; to me
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* {{test|deu|mir|minulle}}
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* {{test|fin|minulle|mir}}
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===Verbs===
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German is anti-drop.
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; sleep
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* {{test|deu|ich schlafe|minä nukun}}
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* {{test|fin|nukun|ich schlafe}}
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====Separable prefixes====
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German can separate prefixes with infinite stuff intervening
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; to capture
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* {{test|deu|die Katze fangen eine Maus|kissa vangitsee hiiren}}
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; to begin
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* {{test|deu|wir anfangen von vorne|aloitamme edestä}}
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* {{test|deu|fangen sie von vorne an!|aloittakaa edestä!}}
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; ankündigen
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* {{test|deu|Delegationen kündigten in Caracas an|delegaatiot tiedottivat Caracasissa}}
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* {{test|deu|Die 62-Jährige kündigte in Berlin an|62-vuotias tiedotti Berliinissä}}
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===Adjectives===
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German adjective should agree with noun on their genders.
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; red
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* {{test|deu|ein rotes Haus|punainen talo}}
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* {{test|fin|punainen talo|rotes Haus}}
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===Adverbs===
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German adverbs are quite but not totally like Finnish; biggest problem is 0-conversion ADV<->ADJ and resulting disamb. problematics
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; fast
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* {{test|deu|ich schlafe schnell|minä nukun nopeasti}}
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* {{test|fin|nukun nopeasti|ich schlafe schnell}}
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===Conjunctions===
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also
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; and
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* {{test|deu|und|ja}}
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* {{test|fin|ja|und}}
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; because
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* {{test|deu|weil|koska}}
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* {{test|fin|koska|weil}}
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===Adpositions===
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German adps have some case requirements but also case variation to determine what happens as well.
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; behind
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* {{test|deu|hinter dem Haus|talon takana|dative is static}}
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* {{test|deu|hinter das Haus|talon taakse|accusative is movement}}
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* {{test|fin|talon takana|hinter dem Haus}}
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* {{test|fin|talon taakse|hitner das Haus}}
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===Numerals===
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Numerals are ok by themselves usually
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; one
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* {{test|deu|eins|yksi}}
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* {{test|fin|yksi|eins}}
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; two
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* {{test|deu|zwei|kaksi}}
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* {{test|fin|kaksi|zwei}}
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; third
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* {{test|deu|dritte|kolmas}}
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* {{test|fin|kolmas|dritte}}
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Numeral phrases are all weird
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===Digits===
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nothing very strange, of course slightly differing orthographies for lots of dinge
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; 1000
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* {{test|deu|1000|1000}}
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* {{test|fin|1000|1000}}
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===Interjections===
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As use
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; hi
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* {{test|deu|hallo|hei}}
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* {{test|fin|hei|hallo}}
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===Punktion===
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Fin uses UPOS German apertium style dozen of classes.
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; full stop
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* {{test|deu|.|.}}
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* {{test|fin|.|.}}
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== Phrases ==
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=== Verbs to possess ===
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Finnish possession is nominal in adessive + copula (olla) in 3rd singular + nominal (in object form?). German has copula for having (haben).
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; haben
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* {{test|deu|ich habe die Katze|minulla on kissa}}
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* {{test|deu|ich habe die Katzen|minulla on kissat}}
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* {{test|deu|wir haben das Haus|meillä on talo}}
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* {{test|fin|minulla on kaksi kissaa|ich habe zwei Katzen}}
   
 
[[Category:German and Finnish]]
  
[[Category:German and Finnish]]

Latest revision as of 09:37, 6 September 2017

see also Finnish and German/Regression tests

Parts of Speech[edit]

First we simply want to see that words of each POS kind of work.

Determiners[edit]

German has articles, Finnish not so...

the
  • (deu) der →
  • (fin) tämä → die

Nouns[edit]

German requires and article for nominals.

house
  • (deu) das Haus → talo
  • (fin) talo → Haus

Proper nouns[edit]

Just a small nuisance with apertium's np classes *and* genders.

Jack
  • (deu) Jack → Jack
  • (fin) Jack → Jack
Finland
  • (deu) Finnland → Suomi
  • (fin) Suomi → Finnland

Pronouns[edit]

Well, yeah.

I
  • (deu) ich → minä
  • (fin) minä → ich
me
  • (deu) mich → minut
  • (fin) minut → mich
  • (fin) minua → mich
to me
  • (deu) mir → minulle
  • (fin) minulle → mir

Verbs[edit]

German is anti-drop.

sleep
  • (deu) ich schlafe → minä nukun
  • (fin) nukun → ich schlafe

Separable prefixes[edit]

German can separate prefixes with infinite stuff intervening

to capture
  • (deu) die Katze fangen eine Maus → kissa vangitsee hiiren
to begin
  • (deu) wir anfangen von vorne → aloitamme edestä
  • (deu) fangen sie von vorne an! → aloittakaa edestä!
ankündigen
  • (deu) Delegationen kündigten in Caracas an → delegaatiot tiedottivat Caracasissa
  • (deu) Die 62-Jährige kündigte in Berlin an → 62-vuotias tiedotti Berliinissä


Adjectives[edit]

German adjective should agree with noun on their genders.

red
  • (deu) ein rotes Haus → punainen talo
  • (fin) punainen talo → rotes Haus

Adverbs[edit]

German adverbs are quite but not totally like Finnish; biggest problem is 0-conversion ADV<->ADJ and resulting disamb. problematics

fast
  • (deu) ich schlafe schnell → minä nukun nopeasti
  • (fin) nukun nopeasti → ich schlafe schnell

Conjunctions[edit]

also

and
  • (deu) und → ja
  • (fin) ja → und
because
  • (deu) weil → koska
  • (fin) koska → weil

Adpositions[edit]

German adps have some case requirements but also case variation to determine what happens as well.

behind
  • (deu) hinter dem Haus → talon takana :: dative is static
  • (deu) hinter das Haus → talon taakse :: accusative is movement
  • (fin) talon takana → hinter dem Haus
  • (fin) talon taakse → hitner das Haus

Numerals[edit]

Numerals are ok by themselves usually

one
  • (deu) eins → yksi
  • (fin) yksi → eins
two
  • (deu) zwei → kaksi
  • (fin) kaksi → zwei
third
  • (deu) dritte → kolmas
  • (fin) kolmas → dritte

Numeral phrases are all weird

Digits[edit]

nothing very strange, of course slightly differing orthographies for lots of dinge

1000
  • (deu) 1000 → 1000
  • (fin) 1000 → 1000

Interjections[edit]

As use

hi
  • (deu) hallo → hei
  • (fin) hei → hallo

Punktion[edit]

Fin uses UPOS German apertium style dozen of classes.

full stop
  • (deu) . → .
  • (fin) . → .


Phrases[edit]

Verbs to possess[edit]

Finnish possession is nominal in adessive + copula (olla) in 3rd singular + nominal (in object form?). German has copula for having (haben).


haben
  • (deu) ich habe die Katze → minulla on kissa
  • (deu) ich habe die Katzen → minulla on kissat
  • (deu) wir haben das Haus → meillä on talo
  • (fin) minulla on kaksi kissaa → ich habe zwei Katzen
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