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<spectie> but "take care" is treated as one verb |
<spectie> but "take care" is treated as one verb |
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<donnek> ok |
<donnek> ok |
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====Attributive and predicative adjectives== |
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<spectie> its a problem with attributive/predicative |
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<donnek> it's say something (which is) nice |
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<spectie> but in english we don't distinguish between the two (at least in terms of morphology) |
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<spectie> yes |
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<spectie> in afrikaans they have a -e for attributive (e.g. feodale stelsel -- feudal system) |
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<spectie> and "the system is feudal" - "die stelsel is feodal" |
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<spectie> donnek, aye |
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<donnek> in Welsh the second would have yn before the adj |
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<donnek> so we may not need anything to mark attrib/pred |
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* Dywedodd rhywbeth neis wrthi = He said something nice to her |
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* Mae'r peth yno yn neis = That thing is nice |
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* Mae'n gar neis = It is a nice car |
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<donnek> at first glance, we may just need a rule for rhyw+thing |
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<donnek> rhyw=some |
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<donnek> rhywbeth (something), rhywfaint (somewhat), etc |
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<donnek> rhywle (somewhere) |
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Revision as of 19:29, 21 July 2007
# Welsh : Literal @ Gloss (English)
Transfer
Welsh to English
Word order (VSO to SVO)
# Genir pawb yn rhydd ac yn gydradd â 'i gilydd mewn urddas a hawliau. : Be born everyone free and equal with each other in dignity and rights. @ Everyone is born free and equal with each other in dignity and rights.
Noun Noun -> Noun of Noun
# Llywodraeth Cynulliad Cymru : Government Assembly Wales ==> Government (of) Assembly (of) Wales @ Welsh Assembly Government
Noun Adjective -> Adjective Noun
# bachgen hapus : boy happy @ happy boy # geneth bert : girl pretty @ pretty girl
Compound prepositions
<donnek> I've also thought of another wrinkle - compound prepositions <spectie> i will probably need to write a rule <donnek> eg ar ben (on top of) <donnek> lit on head <spectie> we can do a similar thing with those <spectie> for example: <donnek> becomes ar fy mhen (on my head, literally) = on top of me <donnek> ar ei ben, ar ei phen, ar ein pennau <spectie> are there many of them <donnek> maybe we don't need to think about them now, but just to flag them for later <spectie> if there are not many it might be worth making them multiwords <donnek> how do multiwords work <spectie> there are a few ways <spectie> depending on if one of the words inside the multiword inflects or not <donnek> that would be the case here <spectie> for example "take care" <spectie> "i take care of", "you take care of", "he takes care of" <spectie> but "take care" is treated as one verb <donnek> ok
==Attributive and predicative adjectives
<spectie> its a problem with attributive/predicative <donnek> it's say something (which is) nice <spectie> but in english we don't distinguish between the two (at least in terms of morphology) <spectie> yes <spectie> in afrikaans they have a -e for attributive (e.g. feodale stelsel -- feudal system) <spectie> and "the system is feudal" - "die stelsel is feodal" <spectie> donnek, aye <donnek> in Welsh the second would have yn before the adj <donnek> so we may not need anything to mark attrib/pred * Dywedodd rhywbeth neis wrthi = He said something nice to her * Mae'r peth yno yn neis = That thing is nice * Mae'n gar neis = It is a nice car <donnek> at first glance, we may just need a rule for rhyw+thing <donnek> rhyw=some <donnek> rhywbeth (something), rhywfaint (somewhat), etc <donnek> rhywle (somewhere)