Difference between revisions of "Turkic languages/Ki"

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The various "ki"s in Turkic (and Mongolic!).

usage	attaches to	resulting form	forms	examples
attributive locative	~locative	`<attr>`	^(kaz) -DAGI ^(kir) -DAGI ^(uzb) -dagi ^(tur) -DAki ^(sah) -TAAGI ^(khk) dAx(ʲ)	^(kaz) Бақшадағы ағаштар ^(kir) Бакчадагы дарактар ^(uzb) Bog'chadagi daraxtlar ^(tur) Bahçedeki ağaçlar ^(sah) Садтааҕы мастар ^(khk) Цэцэрлэг дэхь моднууд
substantival genitive	~genitive	`<subst>`	^(kaz) -Niki(n) ^(kir) -NIKI(n) ^(uzb) -niki ^(tur) -(n)Inki(n) ^(sah) — ^(khk) -nIx/-Inx	^(kaz) Сол ағаш біздікі ^(kir) Ошол дарак биздики ^(uzb) Shu daraxt bizniki ^(tur) Şu ağaç bizimki ^(khk) Тэр мод биднийх
attributive ~time adverbs	closed set of adverbs (mostly time)	`<attr>`	^(kaz) -GI ^(kir) -KI ^(uzb) -gi ^(tur) -ki/-kI ^(sah) -ŋI/-GI ^(khk) -х	^(kaz) бүгінгі, былтырғы ^(kir) бүгүнкү, былтыркы ^(uzb) bugungi, bulturgi ^(tur) bugünkü, geçen yılki ^(sah) бүгүҥҥү, былырыыҥҥы ^(khk) өмнөх, дараах
relative thingy	finite phrase (adverb, verb)	lambda(adverb phrase)??	^(kaz) — ^(kir) — ^(uzb) ki? ^(tur) ki ^(khk) — ^(sah) —	^(tur) Tabii ki, ... ^(tur) Dedim ki, ... ^(tur) Sanırım (ki), ...

In Sakha, evidence for -ŋI is forms like бэҕэһээҥи, while evidence for -GI is forms like аныгы. In all other environments (except after vowels) it's impossible to distinguish the two (сарсыҥҥы, быйылгы, аныгыскы, etc.).
What is кэнники (sah)?
How do forms like биһиэнэ (sah) work, and can it apply to nouns? (Seems no?)
The forms биһиги, эһиги might be remnants of <tag>gen</tag><tag>subst</tag>, but they are not used that way currently.

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 * What is кэнники (<tt>sah</tt>)?
 * How do forms like биһиэнэ (<tt>sah</tt>) work, and can it apply to nouns?  (Seems no?)
+* The forms биһиги, эһиги might be remnants of <tag>gen</tag><tag>subst</tag>, but they are not used that way currently.