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=== Word order ===
=== Word order ===


In English the word order is fixed but in Polish it isn't.
In English the word order is almost fixed but in Polish it isn't.


Basic word order in Polish is SVO.
Basic word order in Polish is SVO.


But it is possible to move words around in the sentence (Not all orders are correct but there are some that are completelt.
But it is possible to move words around in the sentence (Not all orders are correct but there are quite many of them)


For example : My favorite dish is spagetti carbonara ( Moim ulubionym daniem jest spagetti carbonara) and
For example : My favorite dish is spagetti carbonara ( Moim ulubionym daniem jest spagetti carbonara) and


It can also be "Moim daniem ulubionym spagetti carbonara jest" which literally translated would be : My dish favourite spagetti carbonara is.
It can also be "Moim daniem ulubionym spagetti carbonara jest" which literally translated would be : "My dish favourite spagetti carbonara is" and this makes no sense.


So it might me a problem when translating from Polish to English, because an order of the words in sentence should be changed.
So it might me a problem when translating from Polish to English, because an order of the words in sentence should be changed.




=== Numerating problem ===
=== Numerating problem ===

Revision as of 16:33, 5 January 2015

What's difficult about the language pair polish <--> english ?

Main problems with Polish<-->English pair :

Noun group inflections

In English a form of adjective does not depend on the noun it is describing. But in Polish adjectives and determiners have to agree in case, number and genders with the noun they modify.

So for example : I want a blue cat ( Ja chcę niebieskiego kota ).

"kota"(cat) is in the accusative case so "niebieski"(blue) must be in the same case. That's why it is not "Ja chcę niebieski kot" but "Ja chcę niebieskiego kota".

Also the inflection of a noun depends of the gender.

There are three main genders: masculine, feminine and neuter

Cat("kot") is masculine.

But parrot("papuga") is feminine.

So : I want a blue parrot ( Ja chcę niebieską papugę) - not "niebieskiego"

Each feminine noun has "a" suffix

Each neuter noun has "o" suffix

If a noun hasn't got "o" or "a" suffix it must be masculine.

There are some exceptions of the rule, but there is quite few of them.


Word order

In English the word order is almost fixed but in Polish it isn't.

Basic word order in Polish is SVO.

But it is possible to move words around in the sentence (Not all orders are correct but there are quite many of them)

For example : My favorite dish is spagetti carbonara ( Moim ulubionym daniem jest spagetti carbonara) and

It can also be "Moim daniem ulubionym spagetti carbonara jest" which literally translated would be : "My dish favourite spagetti carbonara is" and this makes no sense.

So it might me a problem when translating from Polish to English, because an order of the words in sentence should be changed.

Numerating problem

Another problem is that in Polish when telling the amount of something strange thing happens :

  • one chair - jedno krzesło
  • two chairs - dwa krzesła
  • three chairs - trzy krzesła
  • four chairs - cztery krzesła
  • five chairs - pięć krzeseł
  • six chairs - sześć krzeseł

etc

Rules according to wikipedia.

* The numeral jeden (1) behaves as an ordinary adjective, and no special rules apply. 
* After the numerals dwa (dwie), trzy, cztery (2, 3, 4), and compound numbers ending with them (22, 23, 24, etc.), the noun is plural and takes the same case as the numeral, and the resulting noun phrase is plural
* With other numbers (5, 6, etc., 20, 21, 25, etc.), if the numeral is nominative or accusative, the noun takes the genitive plural form, and the resulting noun phrase is neuter singular 
* With the masculine personal plural forms of numbers , the rule given above – that if the numeral is nominative or accusative the noun is genitive plural, and the resulting phrase is neuter singular – applies to all numbers other than 1.
* If the numeral is in the genitive, dative, instrumental or locative, the noun takes the same case as the numeral


Subject dropping

Polish is a pro-drop language, which English isn't:

Subject pronouns are frequently dropped.

For example: ma kota (literally "has a cat") may mean "he/she/it has a cat".

It is also possible to drop the object or even sometimes verb, if they are obvious from context.

For example, ma ("has") or nie ma ("has not") may be used as an affirmative or negative answer to a question "does... have...?".

It is very important part of the language and it is not the old-fashioned way to express yourself.

Defective verbs

In Polish there are sentences without any subject, which can't be literally translated to English.

Such as można ("it is possible"), wolno ("it is permitted") or pada ("it is raining").

In English you must use "it" to express yourself this way, which can't be used in Polish.

Preposition inflecting

In English there are no cases but in Polish they exist.

Prepositions in Polish require the fixed case in noun group, which they are describing (Not exactly fixed, because some prepositions may have different meanings).

For example : bez pięknego kota(without pretty cat), z pięknym kotem(with pretty cat), dla pięknego kota(for pretty cat), przeciwko pięknemu kotu(against pretty cat)

In all these examples, in English there is always preposition + pretty cat, but in Polish it is not constant.