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==Todo== |
==Todo== |
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* Fix multiword verbs in bilingual dictionary -- and add ones non-existent in English dictionary to that dictionary |
* <s>Fix multiword verbs in bilingual dictionary -- and add ones non-existent in English dictionary to that dictionary</s> |
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* Remove items which are in English dictionary but not Welsh/Bilingual |
* Remove items which are in English dictionary but not Welsh/Bilingual |
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* Fix verb conjugation in the Welsh analyser |
* <s>Fix verb conjugation in the Welsh analyser</s> |
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* Add restrictions in the bidix |
* <s>Add restrictions in the bidix</s> |
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* Fix numbers |
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* <s>Add adverbs</s> |
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* <s>More thorough handling of contractions (i'ch, a'u, ...) — including preblank</s> |
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* <s>Add pre-verbal particles (basic functionality)</s> |
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* Add adjective macro to all chunks |
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==Roadmap== |
==Roadmap== |
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* To be able to identify ''who'' said ''what'' to ''who''. |
* To be able to identify ''who'' said ''what'' to ''who''. |
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* To be able to distinguish is a particular item is interesting enough to be translated properly. |
* To be able to distinguish is a particular item is interesting enough to be translated properly. |
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* Sentences of up to 5 words should be translated reasonably well |
* Sentences of up to 5 words should be translated reasonably well from Welsh to English. |
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;Report |
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===apertium-cy-en 0.5=== |
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* Coverage: |
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===apertium-cy-en 1.0=== |
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** Wikipedia (753,741 words): 85.5% |
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** PNAW (11,684,177 words): 94% |
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** BBC Newyddion (144,887 words): 91% |
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===apertium-cy-en 0.2=== |
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== Transfer == |
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* 0.1 performance and coverage for English to Welsh. |
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<pre> |
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# Welsh |
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: Literal |
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@ Gloss (English) |
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</pre> |
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===apertium-cy-en 0.5=== |
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=== Welsh to English === |
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* Properly capitalised sentences. |
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==== Word order (VSO to SVO) ==== |
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* Get the number for nouns from the appropriate place. e.g. sometimes from the det, sometimes from the noun. |
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<pre> |
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# Genir pawb yn rhydd ac yn gydradd â 'i gilydd mewn urddas a hawliau. |
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: Be born everyone free and equal with each other in dignity and rights. |
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===apertium-cy-en 1.0=== |
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@ Everyone is born free and equal with each other in dignity and rights. |
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==== Noun Noun -> Noun of Noun ==== |
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<pre> |
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# Llywodraeth Cynulliad Cymru |
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: Government Assembly Wales ==> Government (of) Assembly (of) Wales |
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@ Welsh Assembly Government |
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==== Noun Adjective -> Adjective Noun==== |
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<pre> |
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# bachgen hapus |
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: boy happy |
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@ happy boy |
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# geneth bert |
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: girl pretty |
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@ pretty girl |
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====Compound prepositions==== |
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<donnek> I've also thought of another wrinkle - compound prepositions |
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<spectie> i will probably need to write a rule |
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<donnek> eg ar ben (on top of) |
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<donnek> lit on head |
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<spectie> we can do a similar thing with those |
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<spectie> for example: |
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<donnek> becomes ar fy mhen (on my head, literally) = on top of me |
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<donnek> ar ei ben, ar ei phen, ar ein pennau |
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<spectie> are there many of them |
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<donnek> maybe we don't need to think about them now, but just to flag them for later |
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<spectie> if there are not many it might be worth making them multiwords |
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<donnek> how do multiwords work |
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<spectie> there are a few ways |
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<spectie> depending on if one of the words inside the multiword inflects or not |
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<donnek> that would be the case here |
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<spectie> for example "take care" |
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<spectie> "i take care of", "you take care of", "he takes care of" |
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<spectie> but "take care" is treated as one verb |
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<donnek> ok |
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====Attributive and predicative adjectives==== |
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<spectie> its a problem with attributive/predicative |
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<donnek> it's say something (which is) nice |
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<spectie> but in english we don't distinguish between the two (at least in terms of morphology) |
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<spectie> yes |
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<spectie> in afrikaans they have a -e for attributive (e.g. feodale stelsel -- feudal system) |
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<spectie> and "the system is feudal" - "die stelsel is feodaal" |
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<spectie> donnek, aye |
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<donnek> in Welsh the second would have yn before the adj |
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<donnek> so we may not need anything to mark attrib/pred |
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* Dywedodd rhywbeth neis wrthi = He said something nice to her |
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* Mae'r peth yno yn neis = That thing is nice |
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: Mae yr peth yno yn neis |
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* Mae'n gar neis = It is a nice car |
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: Mae yn gar neis |
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<donnek> at first glance, we may just need a rule for rhyw+thing |
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<donnek> rhyw = some |
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<donnek> rhywbeth (something), rhywfaint (somewhat), etc |
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<donnek> rhywle (somewhere) |
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====Possession==== |
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Mae cath 'da Bwflw |
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Bod+p1.sg.pres cath gyda Bwflw |
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Be+p1.sg.pres cat with Beefalo |
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`Beefalo has a cat' |
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;Apertium notes |
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We can probably deal with this in interchunk as follows |
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vbbod NP1 pr_gyda NP2 |
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-> |
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NP2 vbhave NP1 |
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====The 'yn' particle==== |
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As well as meaning 'in', 'yn' is used to form the present participle of a verb in welsh. For example: |
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*dysgu = to learn |
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*yn dysgu = learning |
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The present tense is formed by combining 'yn' with the corresponding form of 'bod' (to be) as follows: |
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*Mae Beefalo yn gweithio = Beefalo is working/Beefalo works |
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Note: when following a vowel, yn is abbreviated to 'n, e.g. |
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*Mae Beefalo'n gweithio |
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====Genitive Phrases==== |
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* Handling of gender and number in adjectives |
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To form the indefinite genitive, a simple construct of <object><subject> can be used. |
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For example, "Soldiers of Wales" would be "milwyr Cymru", literally "soldier Wales" |
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Definite genitives are formed with a similar construction, just with the addition of y between the object and the subject. |
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For example, "Beic y gath" = "The cat's bike" literally "bike the cat" |
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Note: feminine nouns incur a soft mutation after the word "y" |
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[[Category:Discussions]] |
[[Category:Discussions]] |
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Latest revision as of 13:24, 10 December 2010
Todo[edit]
Fix multiword verbs in bilingual dictionary -- and add ones non-existent in English dictionary to that dictionary- Remove items which are in English dictionary but not Welsh/Bilingual
Fix verb conjugation in the Welsh analyserAdd restrictions in the bidix- Fix numbers
Add adverbsMore thorough handling of contractions (i'ch, a'u, ...) — including preblankAdd pre-verbal particles (basic functionality)- Add adjective macro to all chunks
Roadmap[edit]
apertium-cy-en 0.1[edit]
- 8,000 of the highest frequency words in each dictionary.
- Rules dealing with basic verb tenses (past, present, future)
- Basic word re-ordering for simple phrases.
- Aims and uses
- For a non-native speaker to be able to discern the topic of a general news item.
- To be able to identify who said what to who.
- To be able to distinguish is a particular item is interesting enough to be translated properly.
- Sentences of up to 5 words should be translated reasonably well from Welsh to English.
- Report
- Coverage:
- Wikipedia (753,741 words): 85.5%
- PNAW (11,684,177 words): 94%
- BBC Newyddion (144,887 words): 91%
apertium-cy-en 0.2[edit]
- 0.1 performance and coverage for English to Welsh.
apertium-cy-en 0.5[edit]
- Properly capitalised sentences.
- Get the number for nouns from the appropriate place. e.g. sometimes from the det, sometimes from the noun.
apertium-cy-en 1.0[edit]
- Handling of gender and number in adjectives
