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In Hungarian a word has usually 2500 forms. |
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Therefore a Hungarian dictionary with all forms would contain 1 million * 2500 words, |
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that is 2.5 GWords, approx 20 GBytes, that can not be handled by computers |
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and handling it would make no sense. |
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Yes, hunspell handles that perfectly, it also handles vowel harmony. |
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What about Apertum to handle Hungarian? [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 10:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:I've played about with [[hunmorph]] — one of its limitations iirc is that it cannot do generation, only analysis. My personal preference for handling languages like Hungarian and Finnish etc. is to use something like [[SFST]] (see also [[Omorfi]]). The problem of course is then to get someone to write the actual code. - [[User:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] 12:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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In Hungarian there is simply too much to generate. Not sure with Finnish&Turkish&Basque&Persian, but they also have a lot. I give you an example: |
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* ház (house) |
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* házhoz to the .. |
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* háztól from the.. |
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* házig up to.. |
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* háznak of the.. |
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* háznál at the |
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* házba into.. |
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* házban in the... |
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* házból from the... |
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* házról about ... |
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* házra on top of the... |
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* házon on the .... |
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* házzá become a ... |
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* házat it (accusativ) - 15 |
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* házam (my house - repeat all previous to this like:) -- 30 |
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** házamhoz ... |
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... |
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** házamat ... |
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* házad (your house repeat all previous to this) -45 |
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* háza (his, her, its house repeat all previous to this) - 60 |
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* házunk (our house repeat all previous to this) -- 75 |
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* házatok (your house repeat all previous to this) - 90 |
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* házuk (their house repeat all previous to this) - 105 |
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* házé (of the house repeat all previous to this) - 130 |
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* házamé (of my house -repeat all previous to this) - .. |
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... |
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* házuké (of their house -repeat all previous to this) - 210 |
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* házak (plural - repeat all previous for this up to here) 420 |
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... |
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* házacska ( a little house - repeat all prevoius up to here) 840 |
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* házikó ( a little house- repeat all prevoius, except last) 1260 |
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* házas (married- repeat all previous for this up to here, except the last 2) 1680 |
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... |
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* you can see, it is almost trivial to get thousands of words just without a grammar book for each substantive. |
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In my opinion if we get a word, házaitokétól, (which is not unusual) we need an analysis tool, that shows: |
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* házaitokétól (from something of your houses) |
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* this is from ház |
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* it is plural |
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* it suits to the prefix "from" |
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* it suits to "plural you" |
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* the houses own something |
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* the owned thing is singular (otherwise it would be házaitokéitól) |
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With this knowledge we can construct the English (or Spanish, German, etc...) form. [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 20:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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