User talk:Muki987 - Revision history

Muki987: /* They were playing */

2009-06-19T20:42:17Z

They were playing

2009-06-19T20:41:35Z

They were playing

2009-06-19T20:39:56Z

They were playing

2009-06-19T20:39:29Z

They were playing

2009-06-19T20:37:10Z

Visualising Matxin/Freeling

2009-06-17T14:46:50Z

Dep tree dept calculation

2009-06-16T21:10:53Z

Basque

2009-06-13T12:44:08Z

Basque

2009-06-13T12:43:03Z

Useful links

2009-06-13T12:42:04Z

Useful links

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 I believe that the Matxin people have an XSL style sheet which will convert an analysis into an SVG. You could try asking them about it on their mailing list. - [[User:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] 14:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
-==They were playing==
+==They were playing or they were arrested==
 <pre>
 en@anonymous:~/tmp/download/forditas/freeling/FreeLing-2.1-beta1/src/main$ echo "They were playing during the day." | ./analyzer -f en.cfg
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 </pre>
-I think, that gerund and passive constructs are generally false interpreted by freeling. "were" is the verb and that should be the root. [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 20:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
+I think, that gerund and passive constructs are generally false interpreted by freeling. "were" is the verb and that should be the root. What do you think? [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 20:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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   st-brk/ta/(. . Fp -)
 ]
-en@anonymous:~/tmp/download/forditas/freeling/FreeLing-2.1-beta1/src/main$ echo "They were arresting during the day." | ./analyzer -f en.cfg
+en@anonymous:~/tmp/download/forditas/freeling/FreeLing-2.1-beta1/src/main$ echo "They were arrested during the day." | ./analyzer -f en.cfg
-claus/top/(arresting arrest VBG -) [
+claus/top/(arrested arrest VBN -) [
   vb-be/aux/(were be VBD -)
   sn-chunk/ncsubj/(They they PRP -)
@@ Line 1,780: / Line 1,780: @@
   st-brk/ta/(. . Fp -)
 ]
 en@anonymous:~/tmp/download/forditas/freeling/FreeLing-2.1-beta1/src/main$ echo "They were old during the day." | ./analyzer -f en.cfg
 claus/top/(were be VBD -) [

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   st-brk/ta/(. . Fp -)
 ]
 en@anonymous:~/tmp/download/forditas/freeling/FreeLing-2.1-beta1/src/main$ echo "They were old during the day." | ./analyzer -f en.cfg
 claus/top/(were be VBD -) [

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   st-brk/ta/(. . Fp -)
 ]
+en@anonymous:~/tmp/download/forditas/freeling/FreeLing-2.1-beta1/src/main$ echo "They were arresting during the day." | ./analyzer -f en.cfg
+claus/top/(arresting arrest VBG -) [
+  vb-be/aux/(were be VBD -)
+  sn-chunk/ncsubj/(They they PRP -)
+  sp-chunk/ncmod/(during during IN -) [
+    sn-chunk/dobj/(day day NN -) [
+      DT/det/(the the DT -)
+    ]
+  ]
+  st-brk/ta/(. . Fp -)
+]
 en@anonymous:~/tmp/download/forditas/freeling/FreeLing-2.1-beta1/src/main$ echo "They were old during the day." | ./analyzer -f en.cfg
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 </pre>
-I think, that gerund constructs are generally false interpreted by freeling. "were" is the verb and that should be the root. [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 20:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
+I think, that gerund and passive constructs are generally false interpreted by freeling. "were" is the verb and that should be the root. [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 20:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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 I believe that the Matxin people have an XSL style sheet which will convert an analysis into an SVG. You could try asking them about it on their mailing list. - [[User:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] 14:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
+==They were playing==
+<pre>
+en@anonymous:~/tmp/download/forditas/freeling/FreeLing-2.1-beta1/src/main$ echo "They were playing during the day." | ./analyzer -f en.cfg
+claus/top/(playing play VBG -) [
+  vb-be/aux/(were be VBD -)
+  sn-chunk/ncsubj/(They they PRP -)
+  sp-chunk/ncmod/(during during IN -) [
+    sn-chunk/dobj/(day day NN -) [
+      DT/det/(the the DT -)
+    ]
+  ]
+  st-brk/ta/(. . Fp -)
+]
+en@anonymous:~/tmp/download/forditas/freeling/FreeLing-2.1-beta1/src/main$ echo "They were old during the day." | ./analyzer -f en.cfg
+claus/top/(were be VBD -) [
+  sn-chunk/ncsubj/(They they PRP -)
+  n-chunk/dobj/(old old NN -)
+  sp-chunk/ncmod/(during during IN -) [
+    sn-chunk/dobj/(day day NN -) [
+      DT/det/(the the DT -)
+    ]
+  ]
+  st-brk/ta/(. . Fp -)
+]
+</pre>
+I think, that gerund constructs are generally false interpreted by freeling. "were" is the verb and that should be the root. [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 20:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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           };
 </pre>
+==Visualising Matxin/Freeling==
+I believe that the Matxin people have an XSL style sheet which will convert an analysis into an SVG. You could try asking them about it on their mailing list. - [[User:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] 14:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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 ==Basque==
+I found some useful Basque introductions:
+* [http://www.hermanboel.eu/en-language_basque_lesson.htm#definite hermanboel]
+* [http://www.buber.net/Basque/Euskara/lesson.2.html buber]
+* [http://learnlanguagefromluton.net/basque.html learn]
+* [http://ixa.si.ehu.es/Ixa ixa]
+* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_language#Grammar en wiki]
 Note that in our Basque→Spanish system we do something similar with Basque cases. For example, a typical way of representing "hegoak" would be:
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 :::Basque has lots of living relatives, Hungarian, Armenian, Turkish, Aserbaidshan, Uigur, Finnish, Estonian, Persian, Japanese (thru Ainu = hunnish influence), Ketchua (Inka language in south America), ancient Egyptian (no more living, but hieroglyphes show a great past), Etruscian (also no more living, but great past), Hindi, and more. [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 11:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
+== Headline text ==
 ==Considerations for prefix groups and possessions==

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 ==Basque==
-This conversation is a bit heated for me, but note that in our Basque→Spanish system we do something similar with Basque cases. For example, a typical way of representing "hegoak" would be:
+Note that in our Basque→Spanish system we do something similar with Basque cases. For example, a typical way of representing "hegoak" would be:
 <pre>
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 - [[User:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] 10:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
-: I think, the discussion gets calmer, since I start to see the pont of xxx, (and he mine) which is helpful and valid. I see, Matxin can handle both Basque-Spanish and Spanish-Basque, so I'll look throughoutly into that. Basque is also a hun language, as far as I know, very similar to Hungarian. [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 10:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
+: I see, Matxin can handle both Basque-Spanish and Spanish-Basque, so I'll look throughoutly into that. Basque is also a hun language, as far as I know, very similar to Hungarian. [[User:Muki987|Muki987]] 10:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 ::Actually, the Matxin system cannot handle Basque→Spanish, as there is no dependency analysis for Basque. Apertium is used for Basque→Spanish and Matxin for Spanish→Basque. As far as I know, Basque does not have any living relatives. - [[User:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] 10:44, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

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 ==Useful links==
 * [http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Muki987 my contributions]
-* [http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/ftyers F. Tyers]
+* [http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Francis_Tyers F. Tyers]
 * [http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jimregan regan's]