User:Jimregan/Luis' email - English - Revision history

Jimregan: some more

2010-04-03T15:08:22Z

some more

Jimregan: some manual postediting

2010-04-03T14:53:46Z

some manual postediting

Jimregan: some manual postediting

2010-04-03T14:42:10Z

some manual postediting

Jimregan: a litle more vocab

2010-04-03T14:34:00Z

a litle more vocab

Jimregan: new version, with added vocabulary

2010-04-03T14:01:26Z

new version, with added vocabulary

Jimregan: result of translation with spelling correction

2010-04-03T10:42:14Z

result of translation with spelling correction

Jimregan: oops. Just the part for transation

2010-04-03T10:40:45Z

oops. Just the part for transation

Jimregan: Apertium translation

2010-04-03T10:40:24Z

Apertium translation

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Hello Gema, Jim and Sergio,

I happen you one of the posts that have sent to the two students of *BCN that have interested in the *heramienta of *post-edition. *Vereis That the idea that I have on the tool is slightly distinct to which *teneis you. I pose some surroundings web in which of graphic way integrate the information of distinct sources of information *linüística so that the *postedición was semi-automatic and supervised by the user.

I give me account that you *teneis a distinct idea for the tool of *postedición. *Creeis That they are compatible? It is more, *creeis that the approach that I have done fits in the platform Apertium? It has arisen me the doubt on if what I pose is useful for the project in general. His application and use in the *UOC is very clear, would be us very useful, but do not know if it fits in the leaf of route of Apertium, in general.

Throw him a glimpse to the post that copy you further down and say me how see it. I Will go back to connect me to first hour of the afternoon.

Luis
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Hello,

I write you this post to all the students that *teneis interest in developing the tool of *post-edition and that already me *habeis sent a first proposal on the project. The idea of this post is to develop a bit more some of the ideas that have in mind for the project so that it serve you of inspiration and *podais elaborate a bit more your proposal.

I have divided it in three parts: general description, available resources to integrate and articles to consult.

If *teneis any doubt, send me a post. *Procuraré Connect me so much in the morning as in the afternoon of intermittent way to follow working in your proposals. When we have something more enclosed would suit that we sent it to the list that facilitated you previously together with a *mini presentation so that other mentors give us *feedback on the proposals.

Spirit,
Luis

*ps: Take into account that this you it *envio to all and that the *cut&*paste would end in several proposals with the same paragraphs so the his would be *digerirlos and from them elaborate your own proposal on these same functionalities and resources or on others that occur you .

1) general Description

- Previous proposals to develop a tool of *post-edition for Apertium have centred in encoding linguistic information of static way and integrate it of automatic way in the *pipeline of Apertium without giving the possibility to the user to act live on the application of these rules. In this project, propose the integration in the *pipeline of Apertium of a *interfície *gràfica of *post-semi-automatic edition that take part on the translation without *formatear (look the documentation of Apertium that there is in the *wiki: 3.6 of-*formatter and *re-*formatter) and that *posibilite a human interaction in real time where the system present him to the user useful linguistic information for the *postedición pertinent of different sources *configurables by the user. This tool will have to contemplate the possibility to be inhibited of dynamic way, so that it obtain directly the translation that offers the engine, without *post-human edition.

- The central idea is, as we have said, *posibilitar the integration of useful linguistic resources for the *post-edition of the translations of Apertium. Apertium already incorporates the possibility to use memories of translation like previous step to the automatic translation, therefore, our project will not consist in the typical tool of *post-edition that integrates the use of memories of translation but that will consist in the integration of a group of linguistic resources for some determinate tongues and whose result will be a platform that allow to the user integrate his own resources and for example, his dictionaries of reference. For this the user will have to provide the information of, for example, how access to the definition of a word in his dictionary of reference. From this base, and to complete the tool can centre us in three tongues: in, *sp and *ca. For each one of these three tongues will identify (collaborating with the technicians of tongue of the *Servei *Lingüístic of the *UOC) a group of linguistic resources to integrate.

- The *SL of the *UOC translates every year around *X *pàgs of text in Spanish, Catalan and English. To address these translations, the technicians of tongue use the exit of Apertium and draft of translation and the *post-edit to arrive to the final translation. In this process, use a series of linguistic resources (dictionaries, linguistic guides, *corpus of query, etc.) For each tongue that, added to the experience of the technician of tongue, contribute the necessary information to round the draft that offers the system. With regard to the *usabilidad of a tool of *post-edition, the technicians of the *SL also will play an important paper when specifying which peculiarities would have to have the tool (for example, if it results useful to offer a sight in which can visualise *simultàneamente the original document and the draft of translation that works ).

2) available and susceptible Resources to be integrated:

- *Correctores Orthographical: the use of a *corrector orthographical on the exit of Apertium can seem a priori a without sense since the entrances of the dictionary do not contain orthographical errors. However, the *corrector orthographical can apply on the unknown words of the tongue origin so that we detect errors *tipográficos and can suggest words in the tongue origin and his potential translations in the tongue destination. For example, if we translate of the Spanish to the English the sentence: "We wave the *banera white from the beginning", will obtain the following translation "*We *waved *the *white **banera *from *the *beginning" where obtain the word '*banera' marked with an asterisk like stranger in Spanish. If we applied a *corrector orthographical (that it implement distances of edition between words and the consistent suggestions) on the text in Spanish will obtain a suggestion that will indicate us that possibly the word that the user wanted to use was "flag". This *informacón can integrate it with the dictionaries of *apertium (or, of not finding the word there, with the service of translation of Google) so that the tool of *postedición offer in the text of exit "*flag" like alternative to "**banera" and that it was the user the one who validate said replacement.

- *Correctores Grammatical: integration of *LanguageTool

- Dictionaries on line: it SCRAPES, *DIEC, *merrian-*webster,.... (Here the technicians of the *SL will have a lot to say). One of the direct applications of the dictionaries is the resolution of the ambiguity. Apertium offers the possibility to use a way of operation where from an ambiguous word in the text origin, mark the distinct alternatives of translation in the text of exit. Present the definition of each one of the alternatives of translation of a dynamic way and no *intrusiva (for example, when happening the pointer of the mouse on each one of them) can accelerate the process of lexical selection that the user has to realise.

- *Corpus *consultables In *linea: today day exist crowd of available resources in *linea that offer the query of his *corpus textual. So that can consult the uses of a word or expression in *corpora of reference. An example of these services is *SpringerOnLine

- Use of the experience of the technicians of the *SL to correct errors in linguistic phenomena in which Apertium incurs
inevitably. In this sense the linguistic guides of the *SL of the *UOC for Catalan and Spanish also are some valuable resources of where extract linguistic information for his integration.

- Apertium-*view/*viewer/*tolk: Inside the platform of Apertium, exist diverse *aplicativos integrated in the *pipeline of the engine and that offer a visualisation of the information that handles the system. Apertium-*view, for example, can represent a base to develop the surroundings of the tool of *post-edition.

3) Articles to consult on *postedición of the exit of an automatic system:

- *Tutorial On *MT *post-*editing: http://www.mt-it file.*info/*MTS-2009-*OBrien-*ppt.Pdf
- *What *is *MT *post-*editing?: http://www.box.net/shared/dgfec2tmf5 / http://www.box.net/shared/s1xhg3eioy
- Article on utility of *MT *post-*editing: http://accurapid.com/journal/42mt.htm

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 ps: Bear in mind that this has been sent to all of you and that a cut&paste would end up in several proposals with the same paragraphs so the his would be *digerirlos and from them elaborate your own proposal on these same functionalities and resources or on others that occur you.
+) General description
-) general Description
 - Previous proposals to develop a tool of post-edition for Apertium have centred  in encoding linguistic information of static way and integrate it of automatic way in the pipeline of Apertium without giving the possibility to the user to act live on the application of these rules. In this project, propose the integration in the pipeline of Apertium of a graphic interface of semi-automatic post-edition that take part on the translation without formatting (look the documentation of Apertium on the wiki: 3.6 de-formatter and re-formatter) and that make possible a human interaction in real time where the system present him to the user useful linguistic information for the pertinent postedition of different sources, configurable by the user. This tool will have to contemplate the possibility of being inhibited in a dynamic way, so that it directly obtains the translation that the engine offers, without human post-edition.
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 - Grammar checkers: integration of LanguageTool
-- Dictionaries on line: it SCRAPES, *DIEC, *merrian-*webster,.... (Here the technicians of the *SL will have a lot to say). One of the direct applications of the dictionaries is the resolution of the ambiguity. Apertium offers the possibility to use a way of operation where from an ambiguous word in the text origin, mark  the distinct alternatives of translation in the text of exit. Present the definition of each one of the alternatives of translation of a dynamic way and no intrusive (for example, when happening the pointer of the mouse on each one of them) can accelerate the process of lexical selection that the user has to realise.
+- On-line dictionaries: RAE, DIEC, merrian-webster,.... (Here the SL technicians will have a lot to say). One of the direct applications of the dictionaries is the resolution of ambiguities. Apertium offers the possibility to use a method of operation where, for an ambiguous word in the source text, mark the distinct alternatives of translation in the output text. Present the definition of each one of the translation alternatives in a dynamic and non-intrusive way (for example, when the mouse pointer hovers over each of them) can accelerate the process of lexical selection that the user has to carry out.
-- *Corpus *consultables In *linea: today day exist crowd of available resources in *linea that offer the query of his *corpus textual. So that can consult  the uses of a word or expression in *corpora of reference. An example of these services is *SpringerOnLine
+- Consultable corpus on-line: today there are many available resources on-line that allow their corpora to be queried. So that can consult  the uses of a word or expression in reference corpora. An example of these services is SpringerOnLine
-- Use of the experience of the technicians of the *SL to correct errors in linguistic phenomena in which Apertium incurs
+- Use of the experience of the technicians of the SL to correct errors in linguistic phenomena which Apertium inevitably makes. In this sense the linguistic guides of the SL of the UOC for Catalan and Spanish are also some valuable resources of where extract linguistic information for integration.
-inevitably. In this sense the linguistic guides of the *SL of the UOC for Catalan and Spanish also are some valuable resources of where extract linguistic information for his integration.
-- Apertium-*view/*viewer/*tolk: Inside the platform of Apertium, exist diverse *aplicativos integrated in the *pipeline of the engine and that offer a visualisation of the information that handles the system. Apertium-*view, for example, can represent a base to develop the surroundings of the tool of post-edition.
+- Apertium-view/viewer/tolk: Within the Apertium platform, there are a number of applications integrated in the pipeline of the engine that offer a visualisation of the information that the system handles. Apertium-view, for example, can represent a base to develop the surroundings of the post-edition tool.
 ) Articles to consult on postedition of the exit of an automatic system:
- - *Tutorial on *MT *post-*editing: http://www.mt-it file.*info/*MTS-2009-*OBrien-*ppt.Pdf
+ - Tutorial on MT post-editing: http://www.mt-it file.info/MTS-2009-OBrien-ppt.Pdf
- - *What *is *MT *post-*editing?: http://www.box.net/shared/dgfec2tmf5 / http://www.box.net/shared/s1xhg3eioy
+ - What is MT post-editing?: http://www.box.net/shared/dgfec2tmf5 / http://www.box.net/shared/s1xhg3eioy
- - Article on utility of *MT *post-*editing: http://accurapid.com/journal/42mt.htm
+ - Article on utility of MT post-editing: http://accurapid.com/journal/42mt.htm

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 Luis
-ps: Take into account that this has been sent to all of you and that the cut&paste would end in several proposals with the same paragraphs so the his would be *digerirlos and from them elaborate your own proposal on these same functionalities and resources or on others that occur you .
+ps: Bear in mind that this has been sent to all of you and that a cut&paste would end up in several proposals with the same paragraphs so the his would be *digerirlos and from them elaborate your own proposal on these same functionalities and resources or on others that occur you.
 ) general Description
-- Previous proposals to develop a tool of post-edition for Apertium have centred  in encoding linguistic information of static way and integrate it of automatic way in the *pipeline of Apertium without giving the possibility to the user to act live on the application of these rules. In this project, propose the integration in the *pipeline of Apertium of a graphic interface of semi-automatic post-edition that take part on the translation without *formatear (look the documentation of Apertium that there is in the *wiki: 3.6 of-*formatter and *re-*formatter) and that make possible a human interaction in real time where the system present him to the user useful linguistic information for the pertinent postedition of different sources *configurables by the user. This tool will have to contemplate the possibility to be inhibited of dynamic way, so that it obtain  directly the translation that offers the engine, without human post-edition.
+- Previous proposals to develop a tool of post-edition for Apertium have centred  in encoding linguistic information of static way and integrate it of automatic way in the pipeline of Apertium without giving the possibility to the user to act live on the application of these rules. In this project, propose the integration in the pipeline of Apertium of a graphic interface of semi-automatic post-edition that take part on the translation without formatting (look the documentation of Apertium on the wiki: 3.6 de-formatter and re-formatter) and that make possible a human interaction in real time where the system present him to the user useful linguistic information for the pertinent postedition of different sources, configurable by the user. This tool will have to contemplate the possibility of being inhibited in a dynamic way, so that it directly obtains the translation that the engine offers, without human post-edition.
-- The central idea is, as we have said, make possible the integration of useful linguistic resources for the post-edition of the translations of Apertium. Apertium already incorporates the possibility to use translation memories like previous step to the automatic translation, therefore, our project will not consist in the typical tool of post-edition that integrates the use of translation memories but that will consist in the integration of a group of linguistic resources for some determinate tongues and whose result will be a platform that allow to the user integrate his own resources and for example, his dictionaries of reference. For this the user will have to provide the information of, for example, how access to the definition of a word in his dictionary of reference. From this base, and to complete the tool can centre us in three tongues: in, *sp and *ca. For each one of these three tongues will identify (collaborating with the technicians of tongue of the *Servei *Lingüístic of the UOC) a group of linguistic resources to integrate.
+- The central idea is, as we have said, to make possible the integration of useful linguistic resources for the post-edition of the Apertium's translations. Apertium already incorporates the possibility to use translation memories as a step prior to the automatic translation, therefore, our project will not consist of a typical post-edition tool that integrates the use of translation memories but that will consist of the integration of a group of linguistic resources for some pre-determined languages and which will be a platform that allow to the user to integrate his own resources and, for example, his reference dictionaries. For this the user will have to provide the information of, for example, how to access the definition of a word in his reference dictionary. From this base, and to complete the tool we can focus on three languages: en, es and ca. For each of these three tongues will identify (collaborating with the language technicians of the Servei Lingüístic of the UOC) a group of linguistic resources to integrate.
-- The *SL of the UOC translate every year around *X pages of text in Spanish, Catalan and English. To address these translations, the technicians of tongue use the exit of Apertium and draft of translation and the *post-edit to arrive to the final translation. In this process, use a series of linguistic resources (dictionaries, linguistic guides, *corpus of query, etc.) For each tongue that, added to the experience of the technician of tongue, contribute the necessary information to round the draft that offers the system. With regard to the *usabilidad of a tool of post-edition, the technicians of the *SL also will play an important paper when specifying which peculiarities would have to have the tool (for example, if it results useful to offer a sight in which can visualise  simultaneously the original document and the draft of translation that works ).
+- The SL of the UOC translate every year around *X pages of text in Spanish, Catalan and English. To address these translations, the technicians of tongue use the exit of Apertium and draft of translation and the *post-edit to arrive to the final translation. In this process, use a series of linguistic resources (dictionaries, linguistic guides, *corpus of query, etc.) For each tongue that, added to the experience of the technician of tongue, contribute the necessary information to round the draft that offers the system. With regard to the usability of a post-edition tool, the technicians of the *SL also will play an important paper when specifying which peculiarities would have to have the tool (for example, if it results useful to offer a view in which can simultaneously visualise the original document and the draft of translation that works ).
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 ) available and susceptible Resources to be integrated:
-- Spell checkers: the use of a spell checker on the exit of Apertium can seem a priori a without sense since the entrances of the dictionary do not contain orthographical errors. However, the spell checker can apply  on the unknown words of the tongue origin so that we detect errors *tipográficos and can suggest words in the tongue origin and his potential translations in the tongue destination. For example, if we translate of the Spanish to the English the sentence: "We wave the white bath from the beginning", will obtain the following translation "*We *waved *the *white **banera *from *the *beginning" where obtain the word '*banera' marked with an asterisk like stranger in Spanish. If we applied a spell checker (that it implement distances of edition between words and the consistent suggestions) on the text in Spanish will obtain a suggestion that will indicate us that possibly the word that the user wanted to use was "flag". This information can integrate it with the dictionaries of *apertium (or, of not finding the word there, with the service of translation of Google) so that the tool of postedition offer in the text of exit "*flag" like alternative to "**banera" and that it was the user the one who validate said replacement.
+- Spell checkers: the use of a spell checker on the exit of Apertium can seem a priori a without sense since the entrances of the dictionary do not contain orthographical errors. However, the spell checker can apply  on the unknown words of the source language so that we detect typos and can suggest words in the source language and its potential translations in the destination language. For example, if we translate of the Spanish to the English the sentence: "We wave the white bath from the beginning", will obtain the following translation "We waved the white *banera from the beginning" where obtain the word '*banera' marked with an asterisk like stranger in Spanish. If we applied a spell checker (that it implement distances of edition between words and the consistent suggestions) on the text in Spanish will obtain a suggestion that will indicate us that possibly the word that the user wanted to use was "flag". This information can integrate it with the dictionaries of *apertium (or, of not finding the word there, with the service of translation of Google) so that the tool of postedition offer in the text of exit "*flag" like alternative to "**banera" and that it was the user the one who validate said replacement.
 - Grammar checkers: integration of LanguageTool

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 Hello,
-I write you this post to all the students that have interest in developing the tool of post-edition and that already have sent me a first proposal on the project. The idea of this post is to develop a bit more some of the ideas that have in mind for the project so that it serve you of inspiration and can elaborate a bit more your proposal.
+I write this mail to all the students that have shown an interest in developing a post-edition tool and have already sent me a draft proposal for the project. The idea of this mail is to develop some of the ideas that I have in mind for the project a bit more, to both serve as a source of ideas and to help you to elaborate a bit more your proposal.
-I have divided it in three parts: general description, available resources to integrate and articles to consult.
+I have divided it into three parts: general description, resources available for integration, and articles to consult.
-If you have any doubt, send me a post. I Will procure to connect me so much in the morning as in the afternoon of intermittent way to follow working in your proposals. When we have something more enclosed would suit that we sent it to the list that facilitated you previously together with a *mini presentation so that other mentors give us *feedback on the proposals.
+If you have any doubts, send me a mail. I will try to be connected as much in the morning as in the afternoon whenever possible, to follow work on your proposals. When we have something more concrete would suit that we sent it to the list that facilitated you previously together with a mini presentation so that the other mentors can give us feedback on the proposals.
 Spirit,
 Luis
-*ps: Take into account that this sent it to you to all and that the *cut&*paste would end in several proposals with the same paragraphs so the his would be *digerirlos and from them elaborate your own proposal on these same functionalities and resources or on others that occur you .
+ps: Take into account that this has been sent to all of you and that the cut&paste would end in several proposals with the same paragraphs so the his would be *digerirlos and from them elaborate your own proposal on these same functionalities and resources or on others that occur you .
 ) general Description

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 I have divided it in three parts: general description, available resources to integrate and articles to consult.
-If you have any doubt, send me a post. *Procuraré Connect me so much in the morning as in the afternoon of intermittent way to follow working in your proposals. When we have something more enclosed would suit that we sent it to the list that facilitated you previously together with a *mini presentation so that other mentors give us *feedback on the proposals.
+If you have any doubt, send me a post. I Will procure to connect me so much in the morning as in the afternoon of intermittent way to follow working in your proposals. When we have something more enclosed would suit that we sent it to the list that facilitated you previously together with a *mini presentation so that other mentors give us *feedback on the proposals.
 Spirit,
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 ) general Description
-- Previous proposals to develop a tool of post-edition for Apertium have centred  in encoding linguistic information of static way and integrate it of automatic way in the *pipeline of Apertium without giving the possibility to the user to act live on the application of these rules. In this project, propose the integration in the *pipeline of Apertium of a graphic interface of semi-automatic post-edition that take part on the translation without *formatear (look the documentation of Apertium that there is in the *wiki: 3.6 of-*formatter and *re-*formatter) and that *posibilite a human interaction in real time where the system present him to the user useful linguistic information for the pertinent postedition of different sources *configurables by the user. This tool will have to contemplate the possibility to be inhibited of dynamic way, so that it obtain  directly the translation that offers the engine, without human post-edition.
+- Previous proposals to develop a tool of post-edition for Apertium have centred  in encoding linguistic information of static way and integrate it of automatic way in the *pipeline of Apertium without giving the possibility to the user to act live on the application of these rules. In this project, propose the integration in the *pipeline of Apertium of a graphic interface of semi-automatic post-edition that take part on the translation without *formatear (look the documentation of Apertium that there is in the *wiki: 3.6 of-*formatter and *re-*formatter) and that make possible a human interaction in real time where the system present him to the user useful linguistic information for the pertinent postedition of different sources *configurables by the user. This tool will have to contemplate the possibility to be inhibited of dynamic way, so that it obtain  directly the translation that offers the engine, without human post-edition.
-- The central idea is, as we have said, *posibilitar the integration of useful linguistic resources for the post-edition of the translations of Apertium. Apertium already incorporates the possibility to use translation memories like previous step to the automatic translation, therefore, our project will not consist in the typical tool of post-edition that integrates the use of translation memories but that will consist in the integration of a group of linguistic resources for some determinate tongues and whose result will be a platform that allow to the user integrate his own resources and for example, his dictionaries of reference. For this the user will have to provide the information of, for example, how access to the definition of a word in his dictionary of reference. From this base, and to complete the tool can centre us in three tongues: in, *sp and *ca. For each one of these three tongues will identify (collaborating with the technicians of tongue of the *Servei *Lingüístic of the *UOC) a group of linguistic resources to integrate.
+- The central idea is, as we have said, make possible the integration of useful linguistic resources for the post-edition of the translations of Apertium. Apertium already incorporates the possibility to use translation memories like previous step to the automatic translation, therefore, our project will not consist in the typical tool of post-edition that integrates the use of translation memories but that will consist in the integration of a group of linguistic resources for some determinate tongues and whose result will be a platform that allow to the user integrate his own resources and for example, his dictionaries of reference. For this the user will have to provide the information of, for example, how access to the definition of a word in his dictionary of reference. From this base, and to complete the tool can centre us in three tongues: in, *sp and *ca. For each one of these three tongues will identify (collaborating with the technicians of tongue of the *Servei *Lingüístic of the UOC) a group of linguistic resources to integrate.
-- The *SL of the *UOC translates every year around *X pages of text in Spanish, Catalan and English. To address these translations, the technicians of tongue use the exit of Apertium and draft of translation and the *post-edit to arrive to the final translation. In this process, use a series of linguistic resources (dictionaries, linguistic guides, *corpus of query, etc.) For each tongue that, added to the experience of the technician of tongue, contribute the necessary information to round the draft that offers the system. With regard to the *usabilidad of a tool of post-edition, the technicians of the *SL also will play an important paper when specifying which peculiarities would have to have the tool (for example, if it results useful to offer a sight in which can visualise  simultaneously the original document and the draft of translation that works ).
+- The *SL of the UOC translate every year around *X pages of text in Spanish, Catalan and English. To address these translations, the technicians of tongue use the exit of Apertium and draft of translation and the *post-edit to arrive to the final translation. In this process, use a series of linguistic resources (dictionaries, linguistic guides, *corpus of query, etc.) For each tongue that, added to the experience of the technician of tongue, contribute the necessary information to round the draft that offers the system. With regard to the *usabilidad of a tool of post-edition, the technicians of the *SL also will play an important paper when specifying which peculiarities would have to have the tool (for example, if it results useful to offer a sight in which can visualise  simultaneously the original document and the draft of translation that works ).
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 - Use of the experience of the technicians of the *SL to correct errors in linguistic phenomena in which Apertium incurs
-inevitably. In this sense the linguistic guides of the *SL of the *UOC for Catalan and Spanish also are some valuable resources of where extract linguistic information for his integration.
+inevitably. In this sense the linguistic guides of the *SL of the UOC for Catalan and Spanish also are some valuable resources of where extract linguistic information for his integration.
 - Apertium-*view/*viewer/*tolk: Inside the platform of Apertium, exist diverse *aplicativos integrated in the *pipeline of the engine and that offer a visualisation of the information that handles the system. Apertium-*view, for example, can represent a base to develop the surroundings of the tool of post-edition.

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 Hello,
-I write you this post to all the students that have interest in developing the tool of *post-edition and that already have sent me a first proposal on the project. The idea of this post is to develop a bit more some of the ideas that have in mind for the project so that it serve you of inspiration and can elaborate a bit more your proposal.
+I write you this post to all the students that have interest in developing the tool of post-edition and that already have sent me a first proposal on the project. The idea of this post is to develop a bit more some of the ideas that have in mind for the project so that it serve you of inspiration and can elaborate a bit more your proposal.
 I have divided it in three parts: general description, available resources to integrate and articles to consult.
@@ Line 14: / Line 14: @@
 ) general Description
-- Previous proposals to develop a tool of *post-edition for Apertium have centred  in encoding linguistic information of static way and integrate it of automatic way in the *pipeline of Apertium without giving the possibility to the user to act live on the application of these rules. In this project, propose the integration in the *pipeline of Apertium of a graphic interface of *post-semi-automatic edition that take part on the translation without *formatear (look the documentation of Apertium that there is in the *wiki: 3.6 of-*formatter and *re-*formatter) and that *posibilite a human interaction in real time where the system present him to the user useful linguistic information for the *postedición pertinent of different sources *configurables by the user. This tool will have to contemplate the possibility to be inhibited of dynamic way, so that it obtain  directly the translation that offers the engine, without *post-human edition.
+- Previous proposals to develop a tool of post-edition for Apertium have centred  in encoding linguistic information of static way and integrate it of automatic way in the *pipeline of Apertium without giving the possibility to the user to act live on the application of these rules. In this project, propose the integration in the *pipeline of Apertium of a graphic interface of semi-automatic post-edition that take part on the translation without *formatear (look the documentation of Apertium that there is in the *wiki: 3.6 of-*formatter and *re-*formatter) and that *posibilite a human interaction in real time where the system present him to the user useful linguistic information for the pertinent postedition of different sources *configurables by the user. This tool will have to contemplate the possibility to be inhibited of dynamic way, so that it obtain  directly the translation that offers the engine, without human post-edition.
-- The central idea is, as we have said, *posibilitar the integration of useful linguistic resources for the *post-edition of the translations of Apertium. Apertium already incorporates the possibility to use memories of translation like previous step to the automatic translation, therefore, our project will not consist in the typical tool of *post-edition that integrates the use of memories of translation but that will consist in the integration of a group of linguistic resources for some determinate tongues and whose result will be a platform that allow to the user integrate his own resources and for example, his dictionaries of reference. For this the user will have to provide the information of, for example, how access to the definition of a word in his dictionary of reference. From this base, and to complete the tool can centre us in three tongues: in, *sp and *ca. For each one of these three tongues will identify (collaborating with the technicians of tongue of the *Servei *Lingüístic of the *UOC) a group of linguistic resources to integrate.
+- The central idea is, as we have said, *posibilitar the integration of useful linguistic resources for the post-edition of the translations of Apertium. Apertium already incorporates the possibility to use translation memories like previous step to the automatic translation, therefore, our project will not consist in the typical tool of post-edition that integrates the use of translation memories but that will consist in the integration of a group of linguistic resources for some determinate tongues and whose result will be a platform that allow to the user integrate his own resources and for example, his dictionaries of reference. For this the user will have to provide the information of, for example, how access to the definition of a word in his dictionary of reference. From this base, and to complete the tool can centre us in three tongues: in, *sp and *ca. For each one of these three tongues will identify (collaborating with the technicians of tongue of the *Servei *Lingüístic of the *UOC) a group of linguistic resources to integrate.
-- The *SL of the *UOC translates every year around *X pages of text in Spanish, Catalan and English. To address these translations, the technicians of tongue use the exit of Apertium and draft of translation and the *post-edit to arrive to the final translation. In this process, use a series of linguistic resources (dictionaries, linguistic guides, *corpus of query, etc.) For each tongue that, added to the experience of the technician of tongue, contribute the necessary information to round the draft that offers the system. With regard to the *usabilidad of a tool of *post-edition, the technicians of the *SL also will play an important paper when specifying which peculiarities would have to have the tool (for example, if it results useful to offer a sight in which can visualise  simultaneously the original document and the draft of translation that works ).
+- The *SL of the *UOC translates every year around *X pages of text in Spanish, Catalan and English. To address these translations, the technicians of tongue use the exit of Apertium and draft of translation and the *post-edit to arrive to the final translation. In this process, use a series of linguistic resources (dictionaries, linguistic guides, *corpus of query, etc.) For each tongue that, added to the experience of the technician of tongue, contribute the necessary information to round the draft that offers the system. With regard to the *usabilidad of a tool of post-edition, the technicians of the *SL also will play an important paper when specifying which peculiarities would have to have the tool (for example, if it results useful to offer a sight in which can visualise  simultaneously the original document and the draft of translation that works ).
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 ) available and susceptible Resources to be integrated:
-- *Correctores Orthographical: the use of a *corrector orthographical on the exit of Apertium can seem a priori a without sense since the entrances of the dictionary do not contain orthographical errors. However, the *corrector orthographical can apply  on the unknown words of the tongue origin so that we detect errors *tipográficos and can suggest words in the tongue origin and his potential translations in the tongue destination. For example, if we translate of the Spanish to the English the sentence: "We wave the white bath from the beginning", will obtain the following translation "*We *waved *the *white **banera *from *the *beginning" where obtain the word '*banera' marked with an asterisk like stranger in Spanish. If we applied a *corrector orthographical (that it implement distances of edition between words and the consistent suggestions) on the text in Spanish will obtain a suggestion that will indicate us that possibly the word that the user wanted to use was "flag". This information can integrate it with the dictionaries of *apertium (or, of not finding the word there, with the service of translation of Google) so that the tool of *postedición offer in the text of exit "*flag" like alternative to "**banera" and that it was the user the one who validate said replacement.
+- Spell checkers: the use of a spell checker on the exit of Apertium can seem a priori a without sense since the entrances of the dictionary do not contain orthographical errors. However, the spell checker can apply  on the unknown words of the tongue origin so that we detect errors *tipográficos and can suggest words in the tongue origin and his potential translations in the tongue destination. For example, if we translate of the Spanish to the English the sentence: "We wave the white bath from the beginning", will obtain the following translation "*We *waved *the *white **banera *from *the *beginning" where obtain the word '*banera' marked with an asterisk like stranger in Spanish. If we applied a spell checker (that it implement distances of edition between words and the consistent suggestions) on the text in Spanish will obtain a suggestion that will indicate us that possibly the word that the user wanted to use was "flag". This information can integrate it with the dictionaries of *apertium (or, of not finding the word there, with the service of translation of Google) so that the tool of postedition offer in the text of exit "*flag" like alternative to "**banera" and that it was the user the one who validate said replacement.
-- *Correctores Grammatical: integration of *LanguageTool
+- Grammar checkers: integration of LanguageTool
 - Dictionaries on line: it SCRAPES, *DIEC, *merrian-*webster,.... (Here the technicians of the *SL will have a lot to say). One of the direct applications of the dictionaries is the resolution of the ambiguity. Apertium offers the possibility to use a way of operation where from an ambiguous word in the text origin, mark  the distinct alternatives of translation in the text of exit. Present the definition of each one of the alternatives of translation of a dynamic way and no intrusive (for example, when happening the pointer of the mouse on each one of them) can accelerate the process of lexical selection that the user has to realise.
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 inevitably. In this sense the linguistic guides of the *SL of the *UOC for Catalan and Spanish also are some valuable resources of where extract linguistic information for his integration.
-- Apertium-*view/*viewer/*tolk: Inside the platform of Apertium, exist diverse *aplicativos integrated in the *pipeline of the engine and that offer a visualisation of the information that handles the system. Apertium-*view, for example, can represent a base to develop the surroundings of the tool of *post-edition.
+- Apertium-*view/*viewer/*tolk: Inside the platform of Apertium, exist diverse *aplicativos integrated in the *pipeline of the engine and that offer a visualisation of the information that handles the system. Apertium-*view, for example, can represent a base to develop the surroundings of the tool of post-edition.
-) Articles to consult on *postedición of the exit of an automatic system:
+) Articles to consult on postedition of the exit of an automatic system:
  - *Tutorial on *MT *post-*editing: http://www.mt-it file.*info/*MTS-2009-*OBrien-*ppt.Pdf
  - *What *is *MT *post-*editing?: http://www.box.net/shared/dgfec2tmf5 / http://www.box.net/shared/s1xhg3eioy

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-Hello Gema, Jim and Sergio,
-I happen you one of the posts that have sent to the two students of *BCN that have interested  in the *heramienta of *post-edition. *Vereis That the idea that I have on the tool is slightly distinct to which *teneis you. I pose some surroundings web in which of graphic way integrate  the information of distinct sources of information *linüística so that the *postedición was semi-automatic and supervised by the user.
-I give me account that you *teneis a distinct idea for the tool of *postedición. *Creeis That they are compatible? It is more, *creeis that the approach that I have done fits in the platform Apertium? It has arisen me the doubt on if what I pose is useful for the project in general. His application and use in the *UOC is very clear, would be us very useful, but do not know if it fits in the leaf of route of Apertium, in general.
-Throw him a glimpse to the post that copy you further down and say me how see it. I Will go back to connect me to first hour of the afternoon.
-Luis
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