User:Hectoralos/GSOC 2020 proposal: French-Arpitan - Revision history

Hectoralos: /* Coding challenge */

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Coding challenge

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Hectoralos: /* Resources */

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Resources

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Resources

Hectoralos: /* Reasons why Google and Apertium should sponsor it */

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Reasons why Google and Apertium should sponsor it

Hectoralos: /* Coding challenge */

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Coding challenge

Hectoralos: /* Workplan */

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Workplan

Hectoralos: /* Resources */

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Resources

Hectoralos: /* Reasons why Google and Apertium should sponsor it */

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Reasons why Google and Apertium should sponsor it

Hectoralos: /* Which of the published tasks are you interested in? What do you plan to do? */

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Which of the published tasks are you interested in? What do you plan to do?

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-The translation into Arpitan is [https://github.com/apertium/apertium-fra-frp/blob/master/challenge/cuento-fra-frp.txt here].
+The translation into Arpitan is [https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apertium/apertium-fra-frp/master/challenge/cuento-fra-frp.txt here].
-The translation into French is [https://github.com/apertium/apertium-fra-frp/blob/master/challenge/cuento-frp-fra.txt here].
+The translation into French is [https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apertium/apertium-fra-frp/master/challenge/cuento-frp-fra.txt here].
 There are still a few unknown words. Almost all are irregular verbs, for which and I haven’t yet entered the paradigm.

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 The morphology of the (standardised version of the) language is pretty well described in Stich’s works, although still there is often more than one possibility in verb inflection. Clearly, despite Stich's hard work, many decisions will have to be made when generating Arpitan in Apertium, so I’d make maximum use of the corpus and my informants.
-It should be added that dictionaries cover general vocabulary well, but in the current state of language standardization there is a clear lack of specialized terms. If we take into consideration the two fields for which Apertium translators are usually designed (encyclopedic and journalistic articles), this lack will be noticed in the coverage results. To give an example of a highly topical matter, not only are the words "coronavirus" and "Covid" (logically) missing from the dictionaries, but also the Arpitan equivalents of "virus", "contagion", "contagieux", "pandémie", "confinement", "confiner", "épidémiologie", "épidémiologiste/logue". Hopefully, with the help of the collaborators, we will be able to help propose some new terms, although this issue takes up a lot of time and exceeds the objectives of this three-month project.
+It should be added that dictionaries cover general vocabulary well, but in the current state of language standardization there is a clear lack of specialized terms. If we take into consideration the two fields for which Apertium translators are usually designed (encyclopedic and journalistic articles), this lack will be noticed in the coverage results. To give an example of a highly topical matter, not only are the words "coronavirus" and "Covid" (logically) missing from the dictionaries, but also the Arpitan equivalents of "virus", "contagion", "contagieux", "pandémie", "confinement", "confiner", "épidémiologie", "épidémiologiste/logue". Hopefully, with the help of the collaborators, we will be able to help propose some new terms, although this issue takes up a lot of time and exceeds the goals of this three-month project.
 ===Design decisions===

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 I’m not a speaker of Arpitan, but I know French pretty well, and often read in Occitan too. ORB Arpitan is very easily if one knows these two languages. I have a long-standing friendship with two Arpitan activists (one from Savoy, the other from Switzerland), who are already helping me in this project. I have also contacted Dominique Stich, the creator of ORB, who has given me different resources, answered doubts on the language and is willing to continue helping me in the project.
-From him I got an electronic version of his French-Arpitan dictionary together with his permission and that of his publisher (one of my friends: the world is small) to publish the content under a GPL licence. The site arpitan.eu is also helpful. Stich gave me also two translations of him into Arpitan (c. 65,000 words) which I began to use as a corpus. I’m also collecting other texts in ORB.
+From him I got an electronic version of his French-Arpitan and Arpitan-French dictionary together with his permission and that of his publisher (one of my friends: the world is small) to publish the content under a GPL licence. The site arpitan.eu is also helpful. Stich gave me also two translations of him into Arpitan (c. 65,000 words) which I began to use as a corpus. I’m also collecting other texts in ORB.
 The morphology of the (standardised version of the) language is pretty well described in Stich’s works, although still there is often more than one possibility in verb inflection. Clearly, despite Stich's hard work, many decisions will have to be made when generating Arpitan in Apertium, so I’d make maximum use of the corpus and my informants.
+It should be added that dictionaries cover general vocabulary well, but in the current state of language standardization there is a clear lack of specialized terms. If we take into consideration the two fields for which Apertium translators are usually designed (encyclopedic and journalistic articles), this lack will be noticed in the coverage results. To give an example of a highly topical matter, not only are the words "coronavirus" and "Covid" (logically) missing from the dictionaries, but also the Arpitan equivalents of "virus", "contagion", "contagieux", "pandémie", "confinement", "confiner", "épidémiologie", "épidémiologiste/logue". Hopefully, with the help of the collaborators, we will be able to help propose some new terms, although this issue takes up a lot of time and exceeds the objectives of this three-month project.
 ===Design decisions===

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 === Reasons why Google and Apertium should sponsor it ===
-Arpitan is an endangered and heavily under-resourced language. This would be the first translator for it and, as far as I know, the first morphological analyser. From this project a first spell-checker for the language could be generated.
+Arpitan is an endangered and heavily under-resourced language. This would be the first translator for it and, as far as I know, its first morphological analyser. From this project a first spell-checker for the language could be generated.
 Arpitan (often called Franco-Provençal) is a Gallo-Romance language spoken in France, Switzerland and Italy. According to the UNESCO Atlas of the World’s Languages in Danger, it has c. 100,000 speakers and is “definitely endangered”. In Switzerland and France the family transmission of the language is almost, if not completely, broken. The result is that  more than one third of the speakers are concentrated in the relatively small Aosta Valley, in Italy, and this proportion is increasing. In fact, only in Italy does Arpitan enjoy a certain institutional support, although recently also Switzerland has included it among the languages under the protection of the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. In France, it is the only non-oil regional language that is not officially taught in schools (in practice, it is taught in a handful of them in Savoy, on the pretext that Alpine Provençal is taught, and also Occitan teachers examine the students, allegedly for this variety of Occitan, in the French ''Baccalauréat''; this is the only possible way to circumvent the French authorities' complete lack of interest in Arpitan).

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 == Coding challenge ==
-I have created apertium-frp and apertium-fra-frp. You can test the challenge by cloning, compiling and typing in apertium-fra-frp:
+I have created [https://github.com/apertium/apertium-frp apertium-frp] and [https://github.com/apertium/apertium-fra-frp apertium-fra-frp]. You can test the challenge by cloning, compiling and typing in apertium-fra-frp:
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 cat [https://github.com/apertium/apertium-fra/blob/master/texts/cuento.fra.txt ../apertium-fra/texts/cuento.fra.txt] | apertium -d . fra-frp<br>

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 ===Resources===
-I’m not a speaker of Arpitan, but I know French pretty well, and often read in Occitan. ORB Arpitan is very easily if one knows these two languages. I have a long-standing friendship with two Arpitan activists (one from Savoy, the other from Switzerland), who are already helping me in this project. I have also contacted Dominique Stich, the creator of ORB, who has given me different resources, answered doubts on the language and is willing to continue helping me in the project.
+I’m not a speaker of Arpitan, but I know French pretty well, and often read in Occitan too. ORB Arpitan is very easily if one knows these two languages. I have a long-standing friendship with two Arpitan activists (one from Savoy, the other from Switzerland), who are already helping me in this project. I have also contacted Dominique Stich, the creator of ORB, who has given me different resources, answered doubts on the language and is willing to continue helping me in the project.
 From him I got an electronic version of his French-Arpitan dictionary together with his permission and that of his publisher (one of my friends: the world is small) to publish the content under a GPL licence. The site arpitan.eu is also helpful. Stich gave me also two translations of him into Arpitan (c. 65,000 words) which I began to use as a corpus. I’m also collecting other texts in ORB.

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 Arpitan is an endangered and heavily under-resourced language. This would be the first translator for it and, as far as I know, the first morphological analyser. From this project a first spell-checker for the language could be generated.
-Arpitan (often called Franco-Provençal) is a Gallo-Romance language spoken in France, Switzerland and Italy. According to the UNESCO Atlas of the World’s Languages in Danger, it has c. 100,000 speakers and is “definitely endangered”. In Switzerland and France the family transmission of the language is almost, if not completely, broken. The result is that in the relatively small Aosta Valley, in Italy, more than one third of the speakers are concentrated, and this proportion is increasing. In fact, only in Italy does Arpitan enjoy a certain institutional support, although recently also Switzerland has included it among the languages under the protection of the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. In France, it is the only non-oil regional language that is not officially taught in schools (in practice, it is taught in a handful of them in Savoy, on the pretext that Alpine Provençal is taught, and also Occitan teachers examine the students, allegedly for this variety of Occitan, in the French ''Baccalauréat''; this is the only possible way to circumvent the French authorities' complete lack of interest in Arpitan).
+Arpitan (often called Franco-Provençal) is a Gallo-Romance language spoken in France, Switzerland and Italy. According to the UNESCO Atlas of the World’s Languages in Danger, it has c. 100,000 speakers and is “definitely endangered”. In Switzerland and France the family transmission of the language is almost, if not completely, broken. The result is that  more than one third of the speakers are concentrated in the relatively small Aosta Valley, in Italy, and this proportion is increasing. In fact, only in Italy does Arpitan enjoy a certain institutional support, although recently also Switzerland has included it among the languages under the protection of the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. In France, it is the only non-oil regional language that is not officially taught in schools (in practice, it is taught in a handful of them in Savoy, on the pretext that Alpine Provençal is taught, and also Occitan teachers examine the students, allegedly for this variety of Occitan, in the French ''Baccalauréat''; this is the only possible way to circumvent the French authorities' complete lack of interest in Arpitan).
 Arpitan was recognized by the Romanists as a language in its own right as early as the end of the 19th century. However, it has not been standardised. It is highly dialectalised, with numerous variants for each word and also multiple morphological and phonetic variants. In a context of centuries-old marginalisation, its written use has been scarce. Several phonetic orthographies have been developed and are used in small circles, each in a different region. As each one is based on a local variety, they do not really help communication across regions. The adoption of any of them by speakers of other varieties is virtually impossible.

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 == Which of the published tasks are you interested in? What do you plan to do? ==
-'''Adopt an unreleased language pair''': I'd like to create the pair French-Arpitan (Franco-Provençal). Arpitan does not currently have any support in Apertium (and elsewhere its support is very scarce).
+'''Adopt an unreleased language pair''': I'd like to create the pair French-Arpitan (Franco-Provençal).
+Arpitan does not currently have any support in Apertium (and elsewhere its support is very scarce).
 == My proposal ==