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	:::: Well, it would work basically like Icelandic I guess, there is a CG in the Icelandic pair, or you could also look at the Slavic languages. It's not that hard a task, what you're trying to do is remove the ambiguity you can so that the statistical tagger has an easier time, not make a perfect disambigutor for German. :) - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 01:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)		:::: Well, it would work basically like Icelandic I guess, there is a CG in the Icelandic pair, or you could also look at the Slavic languages. It's not that hard a task, what you're trying to do is remove the ambiguity you can so that the statistical tagger has an easier time, not make a perfect disambigutor for German. :) - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 01:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)


			Ok, guys, the github repository has what you need to compile the monodix now. It's still lacking some things like entries with sub-readings or entries handled with regular expressions, but it's a start :) [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 16:49, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

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	:: Is there something similar using CG for other Germanic languages (or languages with cases)? I found a nice example [http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Apertium_and_Constraint_Grammar here], but based on it, this seems like a tough task: basically to come up with a rule-based parser for German, right? [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 23:06, 6 February 2012 (UTC)		:: Is there something similar using CG for other Germanic languages (or languages with cases)? I found a nice example [http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Apertium_and_Constraint_Grammar here], but based on it, this seems like a tough task: basically to come up with a rule-based parser for German, right? [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 23:06, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

			:::: Well, it would work basically like Icelandic I guess, there is a CG in the Icelandic pair, or you could also look at the Slavic languages. It's not that hard a task, what you're trying to do is remove the ambiguity you can so that the statistical tagger has an easier time, not make a perfect disambigutor for German. :) - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 01:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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	:I would recommend Constraint Grammar. :) - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 09:49, 27 January 2012 (UTC)		:I would recommend Constraint Grammar. :) - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 09:49, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

			:: Is there something similar using CG for other Germanic languages (or languages with cases)? I found a nice example [http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Apertium_and_Constraint_Grammar here], but based on it, this seems like a tough task: basically to come up with a rule-based parser for German, right? [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 23:06, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

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	Once we have a monodix, it'll be time to work on the PoS tagger. How is the disambiguation going to work for the cases? e.g. "Der Apfel ist rot." (Apfel<n><m><sg><nom>), "Ich esse den Apfel." (Apfel<n><m><sg><acc>). Is apertium-tagger capable of this? Or perhaps using Constraint Grammar? - [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 03:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)		Once we have a monodix, it'll be time to work on the PoS tagger. How is the disambiguation going to work for the cases? e.g. "Der Apfel ist rot." (Apfel<n><m><sg><nom>), "Ich esse den Apfel." (Apfel<n><m><sg><acc>). Is apertium-tagger capable of this? Or perhaps using Constraint Grammar? - [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 03:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

			:I would recommend Constraint Grammar. :) - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 09:49, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

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	:The best thing to start with is nouns... The workflow is basically ... (0) split-speling.py (1) speling-paradigms.py, (2) paradigm-chopper.py (3) check. The tools are [https://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/apertium/trunk/apertium-tools/speling here]. If you need any help using them, let me know. - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 00:18, 5 January 2012 (UTC)		:The best thing to start with is nouns... The workflow is basically ... (0) split-speling.py (1) speling-paradigms.py, (2) paradigm-chopper.py (3) check. The tools are [https://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/apertium/trunk/apertium-tools/speling here]. If you need any help using them, let me know. - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 00:18, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

			Once we have a monodix, it'll be time to work on the PoS tagger. How is the disambiguation going to work for the cases? e.g. "Der Apfel ist rot." (Apfel<n><m><sg><nom>), "Ich esse den Apfel." (Apfel<n><m><sg><acc>). Is apertium-tagger capable of this? Or perhaps using Constraint Grammar? - [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 03:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

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	Now that we have a fairly complete full-form list (look into the github repository), what's the workflow for using the speling tools to finally get a monodix? [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 17:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)		Now that we have a fairly complete full-form list (look into the github repository), what's the workflow for using the speling tools to finally get a monodix? [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 17:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

			:The best thing to start with is nouns... The workflow is basically ... (0) split-speling.py (1) speling-paradigms.py, (2) paradigm-chopper.py (3) check. The tools are [https://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/apertium/trunk/apertium-tools/speling here]. If you need any help using them, let me know. - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 00:18, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

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	::The best place to look for how I'd probably do the verbs is the Dutch dictionary in the [[Afrikaans and Dutch]] pair. :) - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 00:31, 3 December 2011 (UTC)		::The best place to look for how I'd probably do the verbs is the Dutch dictionary in the [[Afrikaans and Dutch]] pair. :) - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 00:31, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

			Now that we have a fairly complete full-form list (look into the github repository), what's the workflow for using the speling tools to finally get a monodix? [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 17:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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	: Thanks for spotting that! Regarding verbs... not yet. Tried parsing the wiktionary templates a while back, but didn't have enough time. I'll look some more into it. [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 22:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)		: Thanks for spotting that! Regarding verbs... not yet. Tried parsing the wiktionary templates a while back, but didn't have enough time. I'll look some more into it. [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 22:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

			::The best place to look for how I'd probably do the verbs is the Dutch dictionary in the [[Afrikaans and Dutch]] pair. :) - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 00:31, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

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	Is supported by the speling script, you might need to add these manually in the end. Any work on verbs yet ? - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 08:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC)		Is supported by the speling script, you might need to add these manually in the end. Any work on verbs yet ? - [[User:Francis Tyers\|Francis Tyers]] 08:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

			: Thanks for spotting that! Regarding verbs... not yet. Tried parsing the wiktionary templates a while back, but didn't have enough time. I'll look some more into it. [[User:Elaichi\|Elaichi]] 22:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

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 ==Progress==
 Just added some words in uninflectional categories (using the speling format) to the [https://github.com/elaichi/apertium-de-en-dev github repository]. Got the idea of uninflectional words from [http://canoo.net/services/OnlineGrammar/Wort/Ueberblick/Flexionslos.html Canoo]. [[User:Elaichi|Elaichi]] 22:03, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
+Nice, but I'm not sure
+<pre>
+zu; zum; det.def.nt.sg.dat; pr
+zu; zum; det.def.m.sg.dat; pr
+zu; zur; det.def.f.sg.dat; p
+</pre>
+Is supported by the speling script, you might need to add these manually in the end. Any work on verbs yet ? - [[User:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] 08:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC)