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Francis Tyers at 13:36, 1 October 2008
2008-10-01T13:36:30Z
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<td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>:Yep, but you still have the same problem, that between the stem and the suffix you still need one paradigm per word. - [[User:Francis Tyers|Francis Tyers]] 13:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</div></td>
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Jimregan: "This substantially limits the generalisation power of paradigms." Yeah, right...
2008-10-01T11:51:15Z
<p>"This substantially limits the generalisation power of paradigms." Yeah, right...</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>"This substantially limits the generalisation power of paradigms." <br />
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I agree entirely - limiting the generalisation power of paradigms substantially limits the generalisation power of paradigms :P<br />
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Let's shuffle the deck a little: <br />
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guolli N+Sg+Nom guolli<br />
guolli N+Sg+Ill guollái<br />
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guolli N+Sg+Gen guoli guole<br />
guolli N+Sg+Acc guoli<br />
guolli N+Sg+Loc guolis<br />
guolli N+Pl+Nom guolit<br />
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guolli N+Sg+Com guliin<br />
guolli N+Pl+Gen guliid<br />
guolli N+Pl+Acc guliid<br />
guolli N+Pl+Ill guliide<br />
guolli N+Pl+Loc guliin<br />
guolli N+Pl+Com guliiguin<br />
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Now it becomes more clear how we can generalise better: treat those sub paradigms separately, then add a parent paradigm:<br />
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<pardef n="g/uolli__n"><br />
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<p> <br />
<l>uoll</l><br />
<r>uoll</r><br />
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<par n="-uoll-__SUB"/><br />
</e><br />
<e><br />
<p> <br />
<l>uol</l><br />
<r>uoll</r><br />
</p><br />
<par n="-uol-__SUB"/><br />
</e><br />
<e><br />
<p> <br />
<l>ulii</l><br />
<r>uoll</r><br />
</p><br />
<par n="-ulii-__SUB"/><br />
</e><br />
</pardef><br />
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Jimregan