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First we need to find the regular noun paradigm in english
  
First we need to find the regular noun paradigm in english
 
The paradigm is 'house__n'. Why 'house' ? Just because it's a memorable example.
  
The paradigm is 'house__n'. Why 'house' ? Just because it's a memorable example.
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===Understanding the files===
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<e r="LR"><p><l>kataluno<s n="n"/><s n="f"/></l><r>Catalan<s n="n"/></r></p></e>
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<e r="LR"><p><l>kataluno<s n="n"/><s n="m"/></l><r>Catalan<s n="n"/></r></p></e>
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<e r="RL"><p><l>kataluno<s n="n"/><s n="GD"/></l><r>Catalan<s n="n"/></r></p></e>
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<e r="LR"><p><l>katoliko<s n="n"/><s n="f"/></l><r>Catholic<s n="n"/></r></p></e>
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<e r="LR"><p><l>katoliko<s n="n"/><s n="m"/></l><r>Catholic<s n="n"/></r></p></e>
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<e r="RL"><p><l>katoliko<s n="n"/><s n="GD"/></l><r>Catholic<s n="n"/></r></p></e>
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13.04 It all the same!
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francis.tyers: yep
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that says:
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translating left-to-right: katoliko<n><f> → Catholic<n>
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and
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katoliko<n><m> → Catholic<n>
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13.05 mig: You could write "katalunino" to say a female Catalan person, but most people wouldnt care and would write "kataluno"
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francis.tyers: translating from right-to-left, Catholic<n> → katoliko<n><GD> (GD = gender to be determined)
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mig: ah
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LR = left-to-right
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the directions
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13.06 francis.tyers: yeah
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mig: i have undersood
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francis.tyers: left-to-right = esperanto to english
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==Words==
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which is the lemma ?
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13.08 mig: what is "lemma" ? (a lemming? :-)
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francis.tyers: haha!
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no
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the base form
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root form
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citation form
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etc.
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and it has the same declination as all other verbs ?
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mig: infibitive
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no, its quite skew :-)
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declination= ?
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13.10 francis.tyers: conjugation
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mig: I promise to learn the lingustic words within the week.
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francis.tyers: haha :D
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an idea
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mig: yes, all declinations (ways of conjugation) are all the same in Esperanto
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==TODO==
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13.11 mig: Ill try to go http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Monodix_basics and review the file.
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this is the apertium-eo-en.eo.dix file
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13.13 Fine, Ill review it.

Revision as of 11:18, 25 August 2008

These are my notes for making the English-Esperanto translator but I might be usefull to the same kind of people like me who knows next to nothing about linguistics.

Ive installed standtard Ubuntu packages and theyre working fine:

Using Apertium

echo "Jeg vil gå en tur" | apertium da-sv
Jag vill gå en tur

or 

$ echo "Jeg vil gå en tur" | apertium -d apertium-sv-da da-sv
Jag vill gå en tur


don't use the command apertium-translator, its old and deprecated!


how to add a missing word

You will need to add the word in both the source language monodix AND on the translation dictionary.

Example: I want to add "treeview" which is an English noun.

First I check if its in the English monodict apertium-eo-en.en.dix. If it isnt we'll need to add it.

First we need to find the regular noun paradigm in english The paradigm is 'house__n'. Why 'house' ? Just because it's a memorable example.


Understanding the files

<e r="LR">

<l>kataluno</l><r>Catalan</r>

</e> <e r="LR">

<l>kataluno</l><r>Catalan</r>

</e> <e r="RL">

<l>kataluno</l><r>Catalan</r>

</e> <e r="LR">

<l>katoliko</l><r>Catholic</r>

</e> <e r="LR">

<l>katoliko</l><r>Catholic</r>

</e> <e r="RL">

<l>katoliko</l><r>Catholic</r>

</e>

13.04 It all the same! 

francis.tyers: yep
 that says:
 translating left-to-right: katoliko<n><f> → Catholic<n>
 and
 katoliko<n><m> → Catholic<n>

13.05 mig: You could write "katalunino" to say a female Catalan person, but most people wouldnt care and would write "kataluno" 

francis.tyers: translating from right-to-left, Catholic<n> → katoliko<n><GD> (GD = gender to be determined)
mig: ah
 LR = left-to-right
 the directions

13.06 francis.tyers: yeah 

mig: i have undersood
francis.tyers: left-to-right = esperanto to english


Words

which is the lemma ? 13.08 mig: what is "lemma" ? (a lemming? :-) 

francis.tyers: haha!
 no
 the base form
 root form
 citation form
 etc.


and it has the same declination as all other verbs ? 

mig: infibitive
 no, its quite skew :-)
 declination= ?

13.10 francis.tyers: conjugation 

mig: I promise to learn the lingustic words within the week.
francis.tyers: haha :D
 an idea
mig: yes, all declinations (ways of conjugation) are all the same in Esperanto



TODO

13.11 mig: Ill try to go http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Monodix_basics and review the file. 

 this is the apertium-eo-en.eo.dix file

13.13 Fine, Ill review it.

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